Hope Powell

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That may be true - it is important to distinguish between "not many woman want to" and "women are not able to". I would like to live in an environment where no assumptions are made along the lines of the latter - be it about gender, nationality or anything else you might think of that can be used to discriminate.

Well it's definitely both but you cannot hide from what I said. If they are good enough obviously they should be referees, assistants, coaches, managers or whatever. I imagine if you took the amount of women looking for those jobs you'd have to times it by well over a thousand to get the figure for the number of men looking for those jobs ( I'm just guessing here with these numbers).
 
Amazing that so many people have such negative stereotypes of women. I wonder if they're the same people that vote UKIP and think that muslims are the cause of all the world's problems.
 
Who is actually a pretty decent assistant ref I might add. She's certainly better than a lot of the other tripe we see on the touchlines in Premier League games.

The most impressive display I saw from an assistant referee this season was from her. Can't remember which two teams were playing but it was on sky sports. She got 4 or 5 very close calls right. The crowd were furious. Little did they know she'd got all the decisions right!
 
What was shameful is that women used to play football during the first world war when the men were away, then in the 20s the FA banned them from playing it and this rule wasn't rescinded until 1969. Ban people from playing a game...you couldn't even credit it, could you?
 
It's the typical BS expected of the FA which is, and always has been, run by a bunch of dinosaurs. Before they were banned, women's matches were getting crowds in the tens of thousands. Who knows what women's football would be like in this country had the FA not banned women's football.
 
In the battle of the sexes we all say some pretty daft things but one hopes that it is just banter. When bigoted views are deeply held then it becomes worrying.

Women have had a pretty **** deal over the years and in many ways still do. I empathise with them because I get pissed off with seeing adverts where the man is always shown as a simple fool and does daft things. I stopped listening to the Archers years ago when all the strong characters were women and the flawed individuals were all men. Men are now starting to be stereotyped in exactly the same way that women once were. The mythology that enabled men to corner all the top jobs was wrong but there is a mythology creeping in about women. Women multi task and men can't for example. This error has been repeated so many times that people actually believe it is true when research has confirmed men can't multi task and neither can women.

What is needed is rational, objective and unbiased thinking when it comes to statements about race, gender/sexual orientation and religion.
 
In the battle of the sexes we all say some pretty daft things but one hopes that it is just banter. When bigoted views are deeply held then it becomes worrying.

Women have had a pretty **** deal over the years and in many ways still do. I empathise with them because I get pissed off with seeing adverts where the man is always shown as a simple fool and does daft things. I stopped listening to the Archers years ago when all the strong characters were women and the flawed individuals were all men. Men are now starting to be stereotyped in exactly the same way that women once were. The mythology that enabled men to corner all the top jobs was wrong but there is a mythology creeping in about women. Women multi task and men can't for example. This error has been repeated so many times that people actually believe it is true when research has confirmed men can't multi task and neither can women.

What is needed is rational, objective and unbiased thinking when it comes to statements about race, gender/sexual orientation and religion.


I completely agree with you Godders. I think I need a lie down! Can the word 'banter' or it's hideous derivative 'bants' please be banned though. It's just a paltry excuse for being a twat.
 
Yep, you're right. This is a generalisation and wholly inaccurate. I can't believe that in 2013, some men still have this stereotypical attitude towards woman. And by the way, I don't support left or right wing ideologies. I'm more of the antipolitical type, a libertarian socialist if you like.

Its a genralisation and an opinion. It cannot be backed up by research- anyone who has studied science above a-level will know its very difficult to produce objective results. Too many confounding variables. Im all for equal ops but i also feel that men and women are different (please tell me there's someone out there that recognises that the 2 sexes are different).

It's not biggoted to say that men and women are different and have different qualities, these should be embraced and celebrated. That's not to say that no woman could ever posess the attributes that would make a good manager.

Nice to see some ppl (cbk) are not living in a airy fairy world where we believe anyone can do anything because it's not pc to suggest they don't have the right qualities. (Perhaps one day we will have paramedics competing in the PL - i mean why not?!).
 
When it comes to work, professions or vocation, any person is capable of doing anything, no matter what their gender.
 
Amazing that so many people have such negative stereotypes of women. I wonder if they're the same people that vote UKIP and think that muslims are the cause of all the world's problems.

Its not negative to suggest that men and women are different and as such have different strengths and weaknesses. Am i a sexist to suggest so? Making comparisons to ukip supporters or your average (anti-muslim) daily mail reader just discredits your argument.
 
Thinking about it a little more now I further agree with the opinions of female players I spoke to. Mixing players would be bad for all concerned and hugely detrimental to the women's game.

Think about this. If you have a female player who is good enough to go and play in a mens team and succeed then that kills the womens game, because if those guys were any good they would be playing in a (formerly) 'mens' league. It's actually a pretty good example of The Osborne Effect, whereby the audience for a product is killed by the emergence of something new on the horizon.
 
This thread is a perfect illustration of what's wrong with the modern world. It seems that anyone who has a different opinion is a wum, dinosaur or some sort of women hater. Lets get this right, i dig chicks, but they are different than men. They are hopeless at football and there are millions of UK blokes better than them. I reckon the dog and duck could beat the best womens team.

If women are equal why are they shiete at golf and have to play off the reds. There's a handicap system , they should just have mens handicaps, but no, they want special days and special treatment.
 
It's not about recognising that women and men are different, there's nothing wrong with that. It's the utterly condescending and disrespectful attitude that you have towards women footballers that is the issue here. Yes this thread is the perfect illustration of what's wrong with the modern world, specifically your attitude is the perfect illustration of that.
 
This thread is a perfect illustration of what's wrong with the modern world. It seems that anyone who has a different opinion is a wum, dinosaur or some sort of women hater. Lets get this right, i dig chicks, but they are different than men. They are hopeless at football and there are millions of UK blokes better than them. I reckon the dog and duck could beat the best womens team.

If women are equal why are they shiete at golf and have to play off the reds. There's a handicap system , they should just have mens handicaps, but no, they want special days and special treatment.

You are obviously trolling. The best women golfers are really good. Very bad example.
 
It's not about recognising that women and men are different, there's nothing wrong with that. It's the utterly condescending and disrespectful attitude that you have towards women footballers that is the issue here. Yes this thread is the perfect illustration of what's wrong with the modern world, specifically your attitude is the perfect illustration of that.

I echo this post
 
There really is little point trying to engage with such abject buffoonery as demonstrated (again) by Duckhunter, but the thread was about whether a woman could effectively manage a football team (yes, by the way, once such archaic and idiotic misconceptions perfectly demonstrated on this thread are erased), not whether men are better at football, or physically stronger. That's not actually being disputed.

But as I say, I rather suspect that we should let the troll go back to his cave and ignore it.
 
There really is little point trying to engage with such abject buffoonery as demonstrated (again) by Duckhunter, but the thread was about whether a woman could effectively manage a football team (yes, by the way, once such archaic and idiotic misconceptions perfectly demonstrated on this thread are erased), not whether men are better at football, or physically stronger. That's not actually being disputed.

But as I say, I rather suspect that we should let the troll go back to his cave and ignore it.

So basically, a better question would be "how long until the remaining cavemen evolve?"
 
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