Beefy's Corner - The Off-Topic Chat Thread

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There's a great video on her twitter <laugh>

[video=youtube;8gr4FgpPVoQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8gr4FgpPVoQ[/video]
 
The food looks ****ing bad in this Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares.
 
Mr. Nice said:
[nsfw]Interesting, fair enough, I don't agree but I see why you'd think that. One thing I'll pick up on is the idea of them dying to useless characters, I don't think that's true at all. While the hands holding the knives were fairly worthless, it was the order that killed them. I mean, who killed Ned Stark? Ilyn Payne, a character who literally doesn't speak, but who actually killed him? Joffrey did. Similarly, it was the Lannisters who killed Robb and his crew, they just found an eager hand in Walder Frey + co to do it. And on top of that, I thought the tension was done very well, the Rains of Castamere performance was quite haunting, ruined a bit by the bluntness of stabbing the **** out of foetal Eddard, but still.[/nsfw]
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Schad said:
[nsfw]Jon Snow did push Ygritte over before she could kill one of the Wildlings, presumably so they wouldn't kill her if he failed; not sure that plot thread is totally resolved.

As for them being killed in anti-climactic fashion, I like that about Game of Thrones. With Ned Stark, practically everyone was awaiting the saved-at-the-last-minute twist that always occurs when important characters are about to die...and then he got his head chopped off. Here, we have what looked like a complete nothing of a plot offshoot in the wedding, ending in the deaths of three primary characters and the upheaval of the central plot for the past two seasons. It reinforces the idea that death waits around every corner in Westeros; major characters don't get the 'good death' that narrative dramas usually require, and sometimes they see their heads lopped off while they're helpless, or get murdered where they stand by a bunch of skeezy traitors at the wedding of a ne'er-do-well relative.[/nsfw]
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[NSFW]I get what you chaps are saying but it just didn't sit with me, like Joe I sat and reflected on the episode for about 10 minutes after it was done, and instead of the usual mixture of exhilaration and anticipation I just thought 'Well that was a bit ****'. I can't really rationalise or explain it, it just didn't click. It wasn't that I was annoyed or upset at the characters dying, I just didn't feel the way it happened occurred with the usual slick engrossing panache that GoT usually provides. It just felt like a chunk was missing building to that point, instead of a steady ascent or any ascent at all, it was as if they'd made base-camp at the foot of Everest and then whoosh they were at the top. There was a bubbling undercurrent of tension once they arrived at Castle Frey, and it was clear that Robb's marriage getting in the way of the war was building to something, but it just went from slight unease to massacre in the snap of a finger. The odd sharp right turn isn't a bad thing, but the scene didn't even feel right, the music was awesome and Bolton and Catelyn's silent exchange was great, but from there on out it felt a little cheesy and like I said earlier the SFX were not up to their usual standard which spoiled the immersion for me. Like I said I can't exactly elucidate why I felt let down by it but that's the best I can do! [/NSFW]
 
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