Alistair Johnston Statement

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It's very simple, Dev. Johnston alleges that all the clubs make regular non-declared payments to players. If this is the case, the current investigation into Rangers is rank hypocrisy.

If you think he's talking bollocks, what's your objection to investigating his claim?

No one has accused Celtic FC of anything that I am aware (Snide comments and insinuations from AJ aside) so there is absolutely nothing to investigate. There was an admission from Celtic that Junhino had an EBT and that matter has been settled to the satisfaction of the SFA/SPL, end of story.

IF Rangers did operate second contracts, then why Celtic should be investigated? What would be the reasoning or the grounds behind such an inquiry?

If someone has evidence that Celtic have acted improperly then they should come forward with it and let’s see what’s what, but to suggest that if Celtic have nothing to hide then they should have no fears over an investigation is ludicrous. Let’s use a legal analogy. The Police cannot simply stop people in the street and do random searches in the hope that they will find something that they can then use to charge the individual, they need a reason to stop and search, suspicion of misdeeds is not a valid nor a legal reason.

If you had nothing to hide, would you not mind random coppers banging on your door asking to do a search because they found drugs in your neigbour’s gaff?
 
I don't understand what you think is hypocritical?

At present, AJ's entirely unsubstantiated allegations appear to be vexatious. Should he put some meat in the bones of these allegations then by all means have an investigation. Until then it is just **** throwing.
 
No one has accused Celtic FC of anything that I am aware (Snide comments and insinuations from AJ aside) so there is absolutely nothing to investigate. There was an admission from Celtic that Junhino had an EBT and that matter has been settled to the satisfaction of the SFA/SPL, end of story.

IF Rangers did operate second contracts, then why Celtic should be investigated? What would be the reasoning or the grounds behind such an inquiry?

If someone has evidence that Celtic have acted improperly then they should come forward with it and let’s see what’s what, but to suggest that if Celtic have nothing to hide then they should have no fears over an investigation is ludicrous. Let’s use a legal analogy. The Police cannot simply stop people in the street and do random searches in the hope that they will find something that they can then use to charge the individual, they need a reason to stop and search, suspicion of misdeeds is not a valid nor a legal reason.

If you had nothing to hide, would you not mind random coppers banging on your door asking to do a search because they found drugs in your neigbour’s gaff?

<laugh><laugh><laugh>

You can't be serious.

I have one question for you dev, if I decide to refuse a search on the grounds that the police have no reason to search me, and believe me its happened, what happens next?

On your way you have made a good point

OR

Time to goto the polis station <stripsearch>

You really do talk some ****e.
 
No one has accused Celtic FC of anything that I am aware (Snide comments and insinuations from AJ aside)

Except AJ isn't one of those sad characters you hear on radio phone-ins. He was a central character in the whole story. You can't say that no accusations have been made, apart from the people we choose to ignore, so there's no case to answer.

To extend your analogy, if my neighbour said that everyone in the street has drugs too, which is essentially what AJ is doing, then the police would have every right to investigate and I would want to clear my name.
 
You can't be serious.

I have one question for you dev, if I decide to refuse a search on the grounds that the police have no reason to search me, and believe me its happened, what happens next?

On your way you have made a good point

OR

Time to goto the polis station <stripsearch>

You really do talk some ****e.

Could you legally refuse a strip search in the street if the Police asked you? Yes.

Would they probably still find an excuse to search you anyway? Again, yes.

Can Celtic refuse an investigation based on the word of Johnson? Yes.

Could the SPL/SFA force an investgation after making up another reason. No.
 
Oh I can feel it ok, MD's got it bad today.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/12/police-stop-and-search-black-people

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-17942299

Normally, police can only require you to be searched if they have reasonable grounds for suspicion. They can search you if they reasonably suspect that you are in possession of an offensive weapon, stolen property, alcohol if you are at certain major football or rugby matches or on public transport travelling to such an event, evidence in relation to an offence under the Protection of Wild Mammals (Scotland) Act 2002, cash or the cash equivalent of £1,000 or more and that this is the result of criminal activity, and/or fireworks that you intend to use anti-socially.

But police can search you under s44 whether of not they have grounds for suspicion, in places where s44 searches have been authorised. They can also search you for a weapon under Section 60 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act, in places where this power has been authorised. Section 60 authorisations last 24 hours and may be extended by 6 hours. They are given where police believe serious violence may occur.

Could you legally refuse a strip search in the street if the Police asked you? Yes.

Would they probably still find an excuse to search you anyway? Again, yes.

And that is perfectly fair for you, which says it all really.

Do your goggles have one side painted green the other white and blue <mismatch>
 
Except AJ isn't one of those sad characters you hear on radio phone-ins. He was a central character in the whole story. You can't say that no accusations have been made, apart from the people we choose to ignore, so there's no case to answer.

To extend your analogy, if my neighbour said that everyone in the street has drugs too, which is essentially what AJ is doing, then the police would have every right to investigate and I would want to clear my name.

"Has he any evidence?" Is the the only question that matters. If he does let him produce it.

Bullshit accusations from a position of bias are not reasonable grounds to investigate anyone, let alone Celtic. He was never a director at Celtic FC so he should keep his mouth firmly cloesd and stop attempting to appeal to the nutters.
 
"Has he any evidence?" Is the the only question that matters. If he does let him produce it.

Bullshit accusations from a position of bias are not reasonable grounds to investigate anyone, let alone Celtic. He was never a director at Celtic FC so he should keep his mouth firmly cloesd and stop attempting to appeal to the nutters.

So only Celtic directors should be allowed to drop Celtic in it? What a strange world you live in.
 
So are you suggesting that Celtic fall into the above categories?

<doh>

No this is past the point of celtic I'm having fun ripping your ****e comparison with the police forces search tactics.

Not exactly something I didn't know but you are the first (albeit ex) copper to actually admit searching people when you have no suspicion happens and it is perfectly fine and reasonable.

I'm fairly sure most of the coppers just like the look of my dick thanks for confirming that.
 
Except AJ isn't one of those sad characters you hear on radio phone-ins. He was a central character in the whole story. You can't say that no accusations have been made, apart from the people we choose to ignore, so there's no case to answer.

To extend your analogy, if my neighbour said that everyone in the street has drugs too, which is essentially what AJ is doing, then the police would have every right to investigate and I would want to clear my name.

No, actually, they wouldnt.
 
So only Celtic directors should be allowed to drop Celtic in it? What a strange world you live in.

So unsubstantiated accusations from a nobody should lead to an investigation of Celtic fc? I think it's you who inhabit a strange world, seriously.

How exactly does he know what contracts Celtic operated? If he alleged that Celtic were operating a child prostitution ring at Lennoxtown would an investigation be justified?

Lest we forget the reason this investigation was launched, Hugh Adam, a former Rangers Director blew the whistle.

I'm afraid the say so of a complete and utter tit like Johnston is not sufficient reason to investigate Celtic.
 
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How can the MSM print the words of the people who have lied and misled them for years on this subject without noting previous "inaccuracy"
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The Daily Record we expect nothing better from Traynor, but the rest? After lie after lie from the Ibrox spinmeisters?
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Transparency required? Rich coming from the man who was chairman of a board that went to such lengths to hide the nature of payments.
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This issue is about whether all payments to players were declared in contracts given to SFA/SPL. This did not happen. End of story AJ.
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AJ's accounts did not say that players were using EBTs or provide any hint that legality was in question. Media buying the myth.
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AJ: classic distraction with "it was on our accounts" what was in your accounts AJ. Explain what YOUR accounts declared to anyone?
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AJ? Is that the same AJ who tried to convince RFC fans that tax bill was an MIH thing & not a problem for Rangers?

Nothing else need be said - Johnston is an utter cretin who lied in the past about all of this and went to massive lengths to hide his board's wrongdoing - he even apologised for it.

"Ah, but we declared it" - as RTC also said, this means nothing - Enron declared their off-balance sheet structures as well - didn't change them being illegal <ok>