england squad

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there's only one person showing a lack of respect on this thread and that is yorkie <ok>

I did tell you so though.

It was always pretty deluded to think a player of Holt's calibre could pull on the national shirt. You can't get away with pulling defenders about in international football, it's as simple as that. You can talk about his goals but he has no experience and scoring off your shoulder / back / arse / shin is all very well but won't win you England caps. He was probably about tenth on the list behind lots of strikers with big game experience.
 
Let them have their fun. We are gutted for our Captain who deserved a chance of playing for his country. Ruddy got picked and rightly so.

1p5wich fans literally have nothing to smile about, other than what happens to us. Poor bastards<ok>

I think the difference is that your heads are up in the clouds when your team isn't. We are going through a crap time but we don't make any pretense about it.
 
I did tell you so though.

It was always pretty deluded to think a player of Holt's calibre could pull on the national shirt. You can't get away with pulling defenders about in international football, it's as simple as that. You can talk about his goals but he has no experience and scoring off your shoulder / back / arse / shin is all very well but won't win you England caps. He was probably about tenth on the list behind lots of strikers with big game experience.

how exactly were we deluded though? have you not seen the clamour of articles saying holt was THE player england should turn to? just cos he didn't get the call doesn't mean we are deluded. if anything, judging by comments from other clubs fans on twitter, they are as annoyed at his absence as we are! its only the ipswich fans who didn't want to see him there.

and if you think that andy carroll is more deserving of a place in that squad then it says more about how little you know about football than anything we say <ok>

i also suggest you find a showreel of all his goals cos if you think they are all scrappy taps ins you are clueless.
 
So happy for ruddy, he deserves it and I'll be proud to see him at the euros

Sad that he'll be one of only a few that actually deserve there place. Holt not getting in is a joke, it's not an oversight, it's a slur on our football club and represents what amounts to gross negligence from the FA and Hodgson. Stewart downing getting in with 0 assists and 0 goals almost needs an official investigation, any big bets on him just beforehand?
 
im sure there are articles for each striker, including Lambert. You chose to read the ones about Holt. Certainly pundits I've seen, Shearer, Lineker, Lawrenson and the Sky Sports lot didn't think he should go. You couldn't see past your bias and the reaction about him being hard done by is nonsense.

I don't think I'd take Carroll or Defoe personally but it just shows how far down the pecking order Holt was.
 
im sure there are articles for each striker, including Lambert. You chose to read the ones about Holt. Certainly pundits I've seen, Shearer, Lineker, Lawrenson and the Sky Sports lot didn't think he should go. You couldn't see past your bias and the reaction about him being hard done by is nonsense.

I don't think I'd take Carroll or Defoe personally but it just shows how far down the pecking order Holt was.

<laugh> I'd personally have taken Michael Chopra, Ipswich Town's star striker!
 
im sure there are articles for each striker, including Lambert. You chose to read the ones about Holt. Certainly pundits I've seen, Shearer, Lineker, Lawrenson and the Sky Sports lot didn't think he should go. You couldn't see past your bias and the reaction about him being hard done by is nonsense.

I don't think I'd take Carroll or Defoe personally but it just shows how far down the pecking order Holt was.

err, three of the four soccer saturday pundits felt he should go <ok>