It's a shame that City's 27 all draw at Torquay at the weekend scuppered our play-off hopes.
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It's a shame that City's 27 all draw at Torquay at the weekend scuppered our play-off hopes.
The stadium itself roughly costed out about £32m - project bill was £43.5m incl likes of the now Bonus Arena, etc.
Only funding the Council received after that kn*b Sir Trevor Booking of then Sport England pulled the plug on £3m of funding (not deemed a community project ffs) was £3m that we got via the guy Murray, then then Chariman of Sunderland (might have been Football Grounds Trust but stand corrected on that one)
Only funding the Council received after that kn*b Sir Trevor Booking of then Sport England pulled the plug on £3m of funding (not deemed a community project ffs) was £3m that we got via the guy Murray, then then Chariman of Sunderland (might have been Football Grounds Trust but stand corrected on that one)
What I don't want it keeping as, is a derelict car park.
The club could already move out the KC should it want to, but if the club and the stadium had the same owner, the chances of it happening with quite obviously drop dramatically.
I don't need to, but the covenants on our house are ****ing ridiculous. You're telling me that simple covenants regarding how land is used is difficult?
You decided to ignore the point I made and type a load on nonsense, good move.
I don't need to, but the covenants on our house are ****ing ridiculous. You're telling me that simple covenants regarding how land is used is difficult?
I have a load of covenants on my house too, they're pretty much impossible to get overturned.
Not that I want to convert my house into a hotel, pub or restaurant anyway.
But every other club owns their own ground and it isn't a problem. It also means that in times of financial difficulty you have something to administer and don't just end up liquidated like we would have been without the Allam's. Also, without being much of an expert on it, if the club owned the stadium rather than the Allam's themselves then there wouldn't be any risk of a post-Allam lockout would there?
Unfortunately I think you're right.
It's tiny and it would involve building a whole new stadium which itself brings a whole host of further unecessary complications.
So we've dropped the housing nonsense now, yes?
did you notice that Tescos have now dropped their plans to build at Welton. I wonder if that is in favour of something maybe grander and better down the road at (say) Melton in the future
You decided to ignore the point I made and type a load on nonsense, good move.
I did warn you were banging your head against a brick wall!
if the council will not entertain the idea of regeneration of the area and support the allams plans why not deal with east riding council havnt they got alot of land within the city that could sustain a sports village, without us losing support by moving to melton
What stops the club (ie. a limited company) selling the stadium to another entity (eg. another Allam owned company)?
Silly me.
I don't know, but I'd guess that yet again it goes back to the covenant thing.
found a site listing all the land owned by east riding council in hull and surrounding areas, plenty of potential sites on here. interesting plot of land on the anlaby link.
http://www.eastriding.gov.uk/corp-docs/forwardplanning/html/shlaa.html
plots 14, 5 and 4 big enough/
http://www.eastriding.gov.uk/corp-docs/forwardplanning/html/shlaa.html
plots 14, 5 and 4 big enough/
I love the people who say that having the Stadium in council hands is better, so we don't get locked out again. How many clubs have been locked out of their grounds in the way we were? That was a unique situation, that came about as a result of the circumstance of the time, which would be very difficult to recreate.
Are people seriously suggesting clubs with their own grounds are more at risk than clubs who rent?
Let's just assume the owner after the Allams is going to be a complete twunt. Think Buchanan, Lloyd and Bartlett all rolled into one. We get into financial difficulty again. What happens next? With the stadium, the club has a lifeline. Mortgages are a possibility - without, we're back to where we were in October 2010. Looking down the barrel.
Some of the posts on various forums on this topic are frankly ludicrous. It's as if housing is this terrible monster waiting to jump out and claim any building projects. Why in gods name would anyone want to build housing on Walton Street. Right next to a railway, with ****e infrastructure around it. You could build them, but look at the house prices around the Walton Street/Albert Ave area??
The only think that would make any financial sense would be an extention to the commercial activities already in the area.
Are people seriously suggesting clubs with their own grounds are more at risk than clubs who rent?
Let's just assume the owner after the Allams is going to be a complete twunt. Think Buchanan, Lloyd and Bartlett all rolled into one. We get into financial difficulty again. What happens next? With the stadium, the club has a lifeline. Mortgages are a possibility - without, we're back to where we were in October 2010. Looking down the barrel.
Some of the posts on various forums on this topic are frankly ludicrous. It's as if housing is this terrible monster waiting to jump out and claim any building projects. Why in gods name would anyone want to build housing on Walton Street. Right next to a railway, with ****e infrastructure around it. You could build them, but look at the house prices around the Walton Street/Albert Ave area??
The only think that would make any financial sense would be an extention to the commercial activities already in the area.
Exactly, anyone who thinks that a potential housing development on Walton Street is the motivation for the Allam's investment in the club simply doesn't know what they're talking about.
A club with their own ground can easily become a club without their own ground. The owner simply has to sell the club and keep the ground.
You decided to ignore the point I made and type a load on nonsense, good move.
Because I know Im wasting my time. I clearly will never change your mind, or a few others, on this so frankly I'm giving up. However I can cast iron 100% guarantee that if the council followed your advice on this issue then in 5 years time every single one of you would be declaring that moment as the worst in the history of our beloved club.