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Deflection at it's most obvious and worst. <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>

You make a wild claim based on zero knowledge. I pick you up on that.

You then make a wild and incorrect claim that I suggested something. I then pick you up on that.

You then claim that as I don't know anything (which I don't) then your wild claim is as good as mine (even though I never made any claim other than you didn't know anything about what you were talking about, which is correct).

No attempt to directly answer the points made by me in my posts. Just continuous waffle trying to justify your baseless original claim.

Put simply. You're claiming as no one knows any inside information you can make anything up and then cry and whine as if it were factually correct.

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The evidence is that in 5 years nothing tangible but plenty of rumour about a new training ground. That is undeniable. So what evidence do you have to counter that argument? Try not to deflect now., state your evidence......
 
If it came to a fight about factual correctness, I know where my monie's going. That said, if it came down to self entitled horse sh!t by someone who bores the bollocks off a bull with his continuous, unfounded, anti Newcastle sh!te then I may have to reconsider.
Utter ****e. What facts has Magnet stated. All he's said is I don't know what they may have done behind closed doors. Which I batted back to him as he doesn't know either. They could have done F all

Let me guess you voted Labour and believed all the ****e they spouted in a manifesto. Seems there is a pattern here.
 
I voted Green.... They look like they're all from sesame Street, but I've had enough of labour and the other ****s... Reform can **** off btw.. Wanna sell the NHS, but the racist ****s all came out in force regardless.

Politics is a sure way to cause arguments.. The only thing up there with football.
 
I voted Green.... They look like they're all from sesame Street, but I've had enough of labour and the other ****s... Reform can **** off btw.. Wanna sell the NHS, but the racist ****s all came out in force regardless.

Politics is a sure way to cause arguments.. The only thing up there with football.
You've forgotten about religion. That's up there for causing arguments.
 
The evidence is that in 5 years nothing tangible but plenty of rumour about a new training ground. That is undeniable. So what evidence do you have to counter that argument? Try not to deflect now., state your evidence......
I have no evidence about what is actually happening but, firstly, I never claimed to have any and, secondly, I'm not the one making up wild unfounded claims and then asserting them to be fact.

Further, you have not produced or stated any relevant facts that conclusively supports your made up claim to the exclusion of any other explanation. There could be many valid reasons why things are taking time. Simply because you feel that you're right doesn't make you right. You need conclusive, irrefutable evidence supporting only one possible answer and that answer being your version of events. You don't have that. So there is nothing to counter.

Now put the shovel down.
 
Utter ****e. What facts has Magnet stated. All he's said is I don't know what they may have done behind closed doors. Which I batted back to him as he doesn't know either. They could have done F all

Let me guess you voted Labour and believed all the ****e they spouted in a manifesto. Seems there is a pattern here.
You're right, there is a pattern here. You've guessed wrong again, just like most of your posts. Keep up the good work.
 
i agree I don’t think they’re in it anymore. Training ground redevelopment is happening instead. Hiring is weak and limited. Stadium stuff is almost laughable. Nobody got hauled over the coals for last summer.

No multi club, no new stadium. This delegation flew in and absolutely nothing happened.

Sticking with Howe is the biggest indication for me, but saying nothing is just as pointless. Weak as piss.
 
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i agree I don’t think they’re in it anymore. Training ground redevelopment is happening instead. Hiring is weak and limited. Stadium stuff is almost laughable. Nobody got hauled over the coals for last summer.

No multi club, no new stadium. This delegation flew in and absolutely nothing happened.

Sticking with Howe is the biggest indication for me, but saying nothing is just as pointless. Weak as piss.

I've had my suspicions for a while and the longer it goes on the more that suspicioun grows.

This guy is by far the best Newcastle YouTuber I've encountered. He doesn't have many followers yet, but I think he'll get them. The other nufc YouTubers aren't great at all.
 
I've had my suspicions for a while and the longer it goes on the more that suspicioun grows.

This guy is by far the best Newcastle YouTuber I've encountered. He doesn't have many followers yet, but I think he'll get them. The other nufc YouTubers aren't great at all.

I didn’t think so at all about 3 months ago, but then the words from the CEO, in reflection, seem awfully hollow now. Particularly when this “summit” brought nothing more than a few million promised to paint the stadium a bit, add lighting effects and build an extra building at Darsley. 5+ years is too long to do the training ground. It’s also intangible value, so when you look at trying to sell the club it’s about restricting debt, stability, and value. It’s concerning there’s no shirt sponsor as this kind of thing can be left open for new owners. I think that’s why the summer will be very different, I can see us shifting players to add cash but won’t buy in the volumes we think. I suspect Howe will just deal with the hand he’s dealt, he’s never going to moan given what he oversaw last summer so keeping it lean, a cheap manager in place, etc, is symptomatic of a club potentially being sold.

As I say the lack of news, sticking with Howe, and the incredibly weak infrastructure after 5 years of ownership isn’t screaming long term to me. PIF sold Al Ahli and all three of their other Saudi clubs are for sale, so hard to see why Newcastle would remain an asset when the strategy is moving away from football.
 
I didn’t think so at all about 3 months ago, but then the words from the CEO, in reflection, seem awfully hollow now. Particularly when this “summit” brought nothing more than a few million promised to paint the stadium a bit, add lighting effects and build an extra building at Darsley. 5+ years is too long to do the training ground. It’s also intangible value, so when you look at trying to sell the club it’s about restricting debt, stability, and value. It’s concerning there’s no shirt sponsor as this kind of thing can be left open for new owners. I think that’s why the summer will be very different, I can see us shifting players to add cash but won’t buy in the volumes we think. I suspect Howe will just deal with the hand he’s dealt, he’s never going to moan given what he oversaw last summer so keeping it lean, a cheap manager in place, etc, is symptomatic of a club potentially being sold.

As I say the lack of news, sticking with Howe, and the incredibly weak infrastructure after 5 years of ownership isn’t screaming long term to me. PIF sold Al Ahli and all three of their other Saudi clubs are for sale, so hard to see why Newcastle would remain an asset when the strategy is moving away from football.

Yep, but they're hardly going to admit the clubs for sale are they? They'll get more pretending it isn't.

They simply cannot achieve the ambition, because of the rules, so unfortunately we won the lottery and we're the 1st fanbase ever to not get a payout.

It's pointless them building stadiums and training grounds costing them into the billions, when they clubs not going to be allowed to compete without constant threat to their huge investment.