The argument/complete nonsense thread...
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You do wonder why some people work on beyond State retirement age and how many jobs that takes out of the 'system'?I know a couple of people in their 70's who have Private pension and state pensions and are comfortably off,yet take up a space in the job pool.
There's no jealousy on my part that they're coining it in but I've no idea what drives them to it? Money,loneliness,the fear of retiring and dare I say dropping dead?
You do wonder how many are doing it and whether or not companies couldn't put something in place to put an end to it by stipulating that retirement age is retirement age? Like I say,I'm not jealous,far from it,I just don't understand the need or desire to do it but I wonder how many jobs would be available if it were stopped?
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You've got some decent points here but some can't stand the thought of not working ,some it's boredom , some will need to and others might be on their own and that's their only way of having friends and meeting people .
Find that interesting as well RG, when you are young its simple, there are the grafters and there are the lazy, but its more complicated then that. The lazy now have a lifestyle choice to remain on benefits. But the grafters split into two camps in older age. Those that continue their careers, living to work into older age, and those that retire from careers and channel their energies into new pursuits, time rich, lots of hobbies and never bored.
Reckon it's mostly people who just enjoy their work, especially if it's vocational. Also people who are self-employed out of choice and aren't constrained by a strict retirement age. I know plenty of self-employed tradesmen who just keep going because they enjoy it, they just gradually wind it down as their physical state demands. I also know quite a few self-employed 'professionals' who still enjoy their work after retirement age, IT bods, business consultants, and the like. My wife's an academic, coming up to retirement but she won't stop. She'll just keep doing what she enjoys whether she's being paid or not.
My old man worked for 45 years for the NHS and was effectively forced into retirement because of his age - he was a workaholic and addicted to it. His manager then couldn't find someone qualified enough who wanted his job, so they paid him locum money to come back, and he did for 10 months, but he'd had a few months taste of freedom from work and realised that he preferred it that way, so jacked it in, despite the ridiculous money, and went travelling for 6 months. He regretted not talking early retirement when he had a chance, as no matter how well you do, you're just a cog in the system that gets replaced eventually.
I left my career nearly two years ago because it got soul-sapping - the endless drive to save and make money on everything, took priority of doing our job well, the constant removal of the benefits of working away from home and the reducing wages relative to other careers. I work in construction now, which was always a side business, but now full time with two friends. If the option was to live in Greece, wake up, go running, fishing, hike, sit in a cafe reading a book and listen to music, I'd jump at it... As it is, I've got 10 more years of this bullshit, working aside ppl like me who'd rather be somewhere else!
I absolutely love my job, to the point in which I don't really class it as a job. But I've got retirements at 57 in my head and ( ATM ) I highly doubt I'll carry on past it even with how much I love it. There's just to many things in life I'd like to do whilst ( hopefully ) still healthy enough to do
There's some really good points in the above posts and all valid 
Some love their job,some can't wait to retire,some would be lost and lonely if they did.I don't begrudge any one of them their choice,interesting topic...
Some love their job,some can't wait to retire,some would be lost and lonely if they did.I don't begrudge any one of them their choice,interesting topic...
Like I say,I know a few.
Worked with an old boy in Farmfoods warehouse turned 70.Army pension,state pension,not short of a few Bob but he's still there(I'm away 3 years).We still keep in touch and his reason for working on is he's lonely and likes the company and banter.
I know a couple of others who do it because it's such a cushy number/easy money.
Worked with an old boy in Farmfoods warehouse turned 70.Army pension,state pension,not short of a few Bob but he's still there(I'm away 3 years).We still keep in touch and his reason for working on is he's lonely and likes the company and banter.
I know a couple of others who do it because it's such a cushy number/easy money.
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The service me and my family have received has been excellent it’s now going to go down the ****ter with a new GP who’s already said we don’t need to see him when unwell!
Lots of GP’s and I suppose others in the NHS stay on and on as they love it
my GP has just retired 80 years of age
The service me and my family have received has been excellent it’s now going to go down the ****ter with a new GP who’s already said we don’t need to see him when unwell!
Lots of GP’s and I suppose others in the NHS stay on and on as they love it
There's nothing to stop people doing voluntary work
If you have both state and private pensions do you really need to be paid as well ?
My missus drives me mad about retiring, but I still really enjoy what I do and I’m still pretty good at it, so I’ve no intention of stopping any time soon.
I’m in London next week, hoping to extend a licensing agreement on one of my brands by another five years, she’s going to go mental when she finds out.
I’m in London next week, hoping to extend a licensing agreement on one of my brands by another five years, she’s going to go mental when she finds out.
I retired in the New Year.
I always planned to carry on working at a reduced work load, but the stress got me.
I’m 69.
I couldn’t work for anyone else as I a m a twat.
I was asked if I fancied driving a school mini bus, £970 a month for 16hours a week. It would solve some financial issues, but **** that for a game of soldiers.
I studied and got a little certificate in AI and developed a survey tool in January and February.
I get the same allowance as elected councillors to sit on panels and read policy documents effecting housing.
I grow vegetables and have two greenhouses.
I struggle to keep my house tidy so that is a learning curve.
Retiring is difficult, I miss emails and telephone calls. I miss being able to go out and earn.
I am worried that I am losing the plot at times.
I always planned to carry on working at a reduced work load, but the stress got me.
I’m 69.
I couldn’t work for anyone else as I a m a twat.
I was asked if I fancied driving a school mini bus, £970 a month for 16hours a week. It would solve some financial issues, but **** that for a game of soldiers.
I studied and got a little certificate in AI and developed a survey tool in January and February.
I get the same allowance as elected councillors to sit on panels and read policy documents effecting housing.
I grow vegetables and have two greenhouses.
I struggle to keep my house tidy so that is a learning curve.
Retiring is difficult, I miss emails and telephone calls. I miss being able to go out and earn.
I am worried that I am losing the plot at times.
Hated my job for the last five years in hull
Reduced hours and got a job in York
Absolutely love my job again and realised I did still like the job just hate the ****tards in charge and their incompetence.
Doing two 12 hour shifts a week and I’m earning not much less than full time
So all is good
Reduced hours and got a job in York
Absolutely love my job again and realised I did still like the job just hate the ****tards in charge and their incompetence.
Doing two 12 hour shifts a week and I’m earning not much less than full time
So all is good
My Mother did that.She was unable to work on after a heart attack and quadruple bypass in her late 50's and my old man had a good job that paid good money and comfortably kept both of them
She gave her spare time to the Sue Ryder shop in Driffield and really enjoyed doing it.
Hull City Council used to have a written policy to actively encourage/bully people out at 65. It's gone now though obviously, but it was in until 10-15 years ago.
I don't condone bullying in any way,shape or form.Maybe they just wanted to refresh their workforce with younger,fitter people with new ideas and different values.
I suppose in some ways I'm trying to point out the obvious here from my own point of view, in that we have a growing unemployment rate and there are people out there receiving large amounts of benefit who'd rather be out working but can't find a job.
If some(fictional) old bloke at 75 working in B&Q has a private pension and a state pension,he really shouldn't need a wage as well and his job could be taken by some willing young man with 3 or 4 kids claiming Income support/universal credit,rent and council tax.
The old boy's got more than he needs and the public pay for someone to sit on their backside,it makes little sense,to me anyway?
I understand those who have created and run their own business working on if they choose,there are many who will be in the process of passing over the family business to a child and will gradually take a back seat after they've passed on their knowledge and nous and there really isn't a place for an unemployed person to join the business.
I'm not sure what I'm gonna do prob go part time at the most .My missus drives me mad about retiring, but I still really enjoy what I do and I’m still pretty good at it, so I’ve no intention of stopping any time soon.
I’m in London next week, hoping to extend a licensing agreement on one of my brands by another five years, she’s going to go mental when she finds out.
Not sure I need to be at home all the time as the missus simply talks from getting out of bed til going to bed it drives me ****ing nuts .
They are if you want your first house to be a new build semi or detached with central heating, double glazed, garage, garden etc etc. it might be. There are houses in Beverley for £100k, and others for a million, in Hull there are houses well under a £100k. If you are willing to start off in a two bed terrace house, as we did, ( and it was a ****hole) then with two basic average wages it is possible as long as you are not saddled with a mountain of debt and want to be driving about in a new car, both paying £40 a month each for an i-phone and be holidaying abroad twice a year.
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