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Yes - but as a high ranking professional, ultimately responsible for such a high profile decision, he should have weighed up the 'risk' and supporting 'evidence' himself - clearly didn't - the phantom West Ham game, for instance - and therefore had no plausible justification for a blanket fan ban; the like of which has never been seen before in this country ...
Our phantom game, that we probably lost.
 
Didn't Maccabi Tel Aviv have their local derby with Hapoel called off last year, due to crowd trouble? That'd be down to Israeli police being anti-Zionist, would it?
 
Didn't Maccabi Tel Aviv have their local derby with Hapoel called off last year, due to crowd trouble? That'd be down to Israeli police being anti-Zionist, would it?
Yes they did much like happens in various leagues every once in a while. Has very little to do with WMP fabricating evidence rather than admit they kowtowed to violent threats from people with zero connection to Palestine who just fancied coming down to Villa Park for a ruck because it was the path of least resistance rather than doing their job.
 
Cops have to manage violent disorder every single weekend at English football clubs. During the 2024/25 season the worst five clubs were:

1. Man Utd
2. Man City
3. West Ham
4. Chelsea
5. Aston Villa <laugh>

Maybe we should ban all Villa fans from travelling - 35% of problems were at home. Of all arrestable offences, around 20% are for violent disorder.

Most football related arrests happen at FA Cup games, followed second by European Competitions.

West Ham had the most football banning orders in place, with 112. @Big Ern <whistle>

Leicester were fourth with 70.... @FosseFilberto

None of these games last season resulted in any club groups from travelling - the police just got on with doing their jobs and dealing with trouble as and when.
 
Cops have to manage violent disorder every single weekend at English football clubs. During the 2024/25 season the worst five clubs were:

1. Man Utd
2. Man City
3. West Ham
4. Chelsea
5. Aston Villa <laugh>

Maybe we should ban all Villa fans from travelling - 35% of problems were at home. Of all arrestable offences, around 20% are for violent disorder.

Most football related arrests happen at FA Cup games, followed second by European Competitions.

West Ham had the most football banning orders in place, with 112. @Big Ern <whistle>

Leicester were fourth with 70.... @FosseFilberto

None of these games last season resulted in any club groups from travelling - the police just got on with doing their jobs and dealing with trouble as and when.

We've always had our share tbh ... there was (reportedly) some trouble after the game at Cov on Saturday... it's tradition <doh> ...<laugh>
 
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For years he has derided the annual gathering at Davos as a smug and conspiratorial meeting of enemies of the nation state. But this week, Nigel Farage will himself be rubbing shoulders with the “globalists” he has so reviled.

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We've always had our share tbh ... there was (reportedly) some trouble after the game at Cov on Saturday... it's tradition <doh> ...<laugh>
Yup, it's all only tongue in cheek by me tbph, but it supports my thoughts that we've been dealing with this **** for as long as I can remember, hence my surprise with the reaction by the police towards the Villa game - it seemed an unprecedented reaction, although I'll accept that might not be totally so, ie with Galatasaray, but that was the purpose of my initial feelings, enquirying where are these examples and I'll accept that was one, if it was so.
 
Cops have to manage violent disorder every single weekend at English football clubs. During the 2024/25 season the worst five clubs were:

1. Man Utd
2. Man City
3. West Ham
4. Chelsea
5. Aston Villa <laugh>

Maybe we should ban all Villa fans from travelling - 35% of problems were at home. Of all arrestable offences, around 20% are for violent disorder.

Most football related arrests happen at FA Cup games, followed second by European Competitions.

West Ham had the most football banning orders in place, with 112. @Big Ern <whistle>

Leicester were fourth with 70.... @FosseFilberto

None of these games last season resulted in any club groups from travelling - the police just got on with doing their jobs and dealing with trouble as and when.


Presumably you’ll remember English clubs being banned from all European competitions for 5 years due to Mickey Mousers kicking off in Belgium. So it’s not like any of this **** is unprecedented tbh, and banning travelling supporters is not the same as banning clubs.
 
Presumably you’ll remember English clubs being banned from all European competitions for 5 years due to Mickey Mousers kicking off in Belgium. So it’s not like any of this **** is unprecedented tbh, and banning travelling supporters is not the same as banning clubs.
If you tried keeping up with the conversation I've mentioned our European ban in a couple of posts. This is not the same and trying to allude it is once again is disingenious by you.
 
Also I'd mentioned that our ban was implemented by UEFA, not the cops and not the government. Athough Thatcher was looking at it.
 
Yup, it's all only tongue in cheek by me tbph, but it supports my thoughts that we've been dealing with this **** for as long as I can remember, hence my surprise with the reaction by the police towards the Villa game - it seemed an unprecedented reaction, although I'll accept that might not be totally so, ie with Galatasaray, but that was the purpose of my initial feelings, enquirying where are these examples and I'll accept that was one, if it was so.

The deaths of the 2 Leeds fans (by stabbing) in Istanbul gave the Elland Rd return a much different dynamic, IMHO ...
 
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Typical dutch again <whistle>

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Got talking to a Liverpool fan on holiday early 80's, he had a scar running side to side just under his botton lip, they came out of a pub, in Holland, sure it was Roterdam, as they got outside a group of local fans were waiting for them, 3 of them had fencing swords, thats how he got the scar, quite a few got slashed.
Went to an Ajax v Utrecht game there once, the away fans were banned because of the trouble between the teams over the years.
 
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If you tried keeping up with the conversation I've mentioned our European ban in a couple of posts. This is not the same and trying to allude it is once again is disingenious by you.


I’m not reading back through pages of bollocks to see who said what to who ffs.

No, it’s not the same, but various authorities have taken often quite drastic steps to resolve football’s hooligan problem. Banning Maccabi fans, who have a record of hooliganism, from Aston Villa is not that big a deal, in the scheme of things.
 
Exactly and I agree with that.
We were walking up ER about an hour before kick off and Turkish TV crews were pushing cameras in folks faces, looking for a reaction as they wanted to try and say how hostile Leeds fans were, one bloke bit and knocked out the one with the microphone, got arrested straight away. I said to one of the coppers, what do you expect, why aren't you telling them to stop goading us. He said they have every right to be here, I replied what even if its inciting trouble, I thought that was an offence, in true police fashion he just ignored me, I said dont worry the white hart will be emptying soon, then they'll know what's hit em.