Off Topic Climate change/ pollution

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They got fined £25m by the regulator for this, over a year ago, presumably they're rather more careful about the sourcing now.

Given they get around £2 million a day in subsidies plus other extras, I reckon they just build it in to their business model.

Interest rate changes for the £7 billion plus they've had is probably a bigger hit.
 
They got fined £25m by the regulator for this, over a year ago, presumably they're rather more careful about the sourcing now.

That's just a leaf in the forest, the subsidy scheme was due to end in 2027 but has been extended to the end of the decade. That will cost the taxpayer/ bill payer an extra 4 billion.
 
If you think this world can sustain its self by reducing ‘meat intake’ your sadly wrong.

Reducing pig and poultry for example would pour the world into hunger. We already have alarmingly reducing birth rates as it is, reducing easy eating proteins isn’t wise.
That sounds like nonsense to me.

There are so many easy available proteins without raising animals then killing them.

Pig and poultry reduction would not ‘pour the world into hunger’ especially if it was done gradually with replacement crops planted.
 
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Not new news but just a reminder.

It's about Drax and burning wood pellets.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68381160.amp

"Drax helps the UK government meet its climate targets because, on paper at least, the power station is treated as emission-free. This is because international carbon accounting rules state that greenhouse gas emissions from burning wood are counted in the country where the trees are felled as opposed to where they are burned."

It really is just all smoke and mirrors, isn't it?
 
"Drax helps the UK government meet its climate targets because, on paper at least, the power station is treated as emission-free. This is because international carbon accounting rules state that greenhouse gas emissions from burning wood are counted in the country where the trees are felled as opposed to where they are burned."

It really is just all smoke and mirrors, isn't it?

It is.
I could hardly believe what I was reading. It's absolutely friggin bonkers.
We also transport the stuff in the country of source, then ship the stuff across the oceans.
And there's billions in subsidies from our taxes.
It's absolute madness and leaves me fuming.
 
"Drax helps the UK government meet its climate targets because, on paper at least, the power station is treated as emission-free. This is because international carbon accounting rules state that greenhouse gas emissions from burning wood are counted in the country where the trees are felled as opposed to where they are burned."

It really is just all smoke and mirrors, isn't it?

It's a complete load of bollox always has been and always will be.
 
And if your blood is not already boiling enough, Drax realising the subsidies on burning wood are potentially going to end soon are looking at the next subsidy scam, carbon capture.

Which it will probably earn by planting trees in the place it cut them down.

But ultimately, we're the arseholes for putting up with it. Vote Labour, vote conservative, vote reform - the same **** on the same shoe. Anyway, on with work, got an Afghan's nine children to pay for.
 
It's a complete load of bollox always has been and always will be.

No better than instead of drilling for oil and gas in our waters and stopping further development and losing thousands of jobs as Mad Ed has done and importing it from around the world ar higher emission costs and making out we are heading towards net zero.
 
I have just received todays piss take. Latest Yorkshire Water bill.
Announcing a huge investment programme of 8.3bn over the next five years. Oh goody, chopping non exec directors salaries? No dividends for five years? No bonus for execs?

Nah - **** you customer, have a 41% increase in payments.
 
I have just received todays piss take. Latest Yorkshire Water bill.
Announcing a huge investment programme of 8.3bn over the next five years. Oh goody, chopping non exec directors salaries? No dividends for five years? No bonus for execs?

Nah - **** you customer, have a 41% increase in payments.

Why not get a water meter.
 
Why not get a water meter.
It's to be hoped water meters work better then the two smart gas meters we had fitted last year, looking at our bill it says we have a potential saving of a few pounds if we get one. That's bollocks as they don't know I've got several watering cans I use in a summer, and the hosepipe. There's no hosepipe ban in my gardens.
 
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That sounds like nonsense to me.

There are so many easy available proteins without raising animals then killing them.

Pig and poultry reduction would not ‘pour the world into hunger’ especially if it was done gradually with replacement crops planted.
Would these 'replacements crops' grow under all the solar panels they are planning in our farmers fields?
 
It's to be hoped water meters work better then the two smart gas meters we had fitted last year, looking at our bill it says we have a potential saving of a few pounds if we get one. That's bollocks as they don't know I've got several watering cans I use in a summer, and the hosepipe. There's no hosepipe ban in my gardens.

A water meter has saved me a fortune compared to my previous water bill. Well under half.
 
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Would these 'replacements crops' grow under all the solar panels they are planning in our farmers fields?

Don't need as many fields to grow crops anymore... Multistory container farms and hydroponics - how many tonnes of cannabis is grown in urban environments... Just needs the investment to build on brown field sites/former toxic industrial sites where the ground is poisoned. Then at least we are guaranteed, supposedly, exactly what goes in our food and also the effluent is better controlled. Where there's a will/a profit, there's a way.

Same is happening with non-cannibalising fish now (not cod unfortunately) - can be farmed on-land, so avoid virus/lice spread and avoid polluting waterways/the sea.