Right Honourable Angela Rayner
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I asked you one simple question that’s all.
You seem to have plenty of time to trawl the internet finding nut jobs posting endless clips of their ‘evidence’ …
… just forget it.
There’s half a dozen people on this thread, you're not exactly broadcasting to the nation
I’ll leave you to it.
No idea if she’s guilty of anything in the latest political points scoring nonsense but it’s a bit bizarre they’ve had a reshuffle and left the chancellor in charge when she’s not exactly doing a stellar job with the finances! I think their second budget will likely be another disaster and Starmer will push the blame and peddle her
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To be fair the UK's finances have been an absolute shambles for quite a while, I don't think anyone could do a stellar job.
It's not what people want to hear but there's no easy way out imo.
And Labour and the Conservatives are??
Well at least neither are getting deranged people to contribute to their conferences whatever you think of their policies. Reform are a bunch of fruitcakes.
There is but it requires taxing wealth and wealth own most parties as democracy stands through the donor system. Corporate and private money should never dictate policy.
It's hard to believe some people are falling for posh blokes who openly admit they have no policies or suitable candidates ...
... their only plan can't work, the Royal Navy have already said they're not interested in talking migrants 'back to the beaches'.
No doubt the Union Jack waving people of Essex would volunteer to do the job, seriously.
They’ve had;
An anti vax speaker who thinks a Covid jab have King Charles cancer
A member of parliament talked out of wearing a turquoise hijab to wind up Muslims
Given a stage to someone who suggested people burn migrants alive
Have had their leader exposed for tax avoidance and lying
Yet some defend them
It is legit for people to not really like the significant others but still think these vile weirdos are throughly not credible or capable of running our country
Underage miners? I thought we stopped sending kids down the pits about 150 years ago.
‘One cannot help but feel a measure of sympathy for Angela Rayner. I know her well enough to say that she came into politics for the best of reasons: a desire to serve, a determination to improve the lives of people whose struggles she understood from her own experience.
But the further up the ladder one climbs in politics, the more insistent the temptations become. This is not simply about individual weakness or personal failing. It is structural. Over the past 40 years, Britain has built a society in which consumption, status, and proximity to wealth have become defining features of the political class. The gravitational pull of money is now so great that even those who arrive in Westminster with the clearest sense of purpose find their heads turned.
Angela’s story is not unique. She came from humble beginnings, but the wealth that circles political life today is more concentrated, more brazen, and more intrusive than in the past. The old checks and balances, party rootedness in mass membership, trade union accountability, a press less entangled with oligarchic interests, have all weakened. Where once honour, public service, even a sense of historical duty could command respect, today those values are dimmed in comparison to the pursuit of material position.
The mechanism is subtle but relentless. It is not corruption in the brown-envelope-under-the-table sense. It is the slow, almost invisible turning of heads. You are introduced to those who walked this path before you, former ministers who now sit comfortably in boardrooms or on the payroll of consultancies with six and seven-figure salaries. You are invited to corporate boxes at sporting events, to private dinners, to concerts and premiers. Lavish clothes or spectacles can be “within the rules,” provided they are declared. But by then the damage has been done.
The message is implicit but unmistakable: play the game, listen to us, and you too can enjoy more of this. The logic creeps into your personal life. You stretch to buy the house that can host the right gatherings. You measure your worth by the standards of a world that equates success with possessions and proximity to privilege. And once you are on that path, it is hard to step off.
This is, of course, a simplification of a complex socio-economic and political process. But as someone who came from a council estate myself, I see it all around me in Westminster. And it is not going to be changed by media witch-hunts, the tutting of ethics advisers, or even the occasional burst of public outrage.
As Gladstone once warned, “Nothing that is morally wrong can be politically right.” But in our current system, what is morally questionable is too often normalised, excused, and rebranded as “just the way things are.”
Real change will only come from a collective decision to choose a different path: to stop outsourcing our state to private interests, to end the revolving door between government and corporate boardrooms, to challenge the idea that the role of politics is to serve vast concentrations of wealth.
We can choose differently. We can once again put community, solidarity, and public service at the heart of our political life. We can insist that worth is measured not in the size of one’s house or the company one keeps, but in the contribution one makes to society and the integrity with which one serves.
Until we do, until we decide as a polity to hold up those values rather than the glittering prizes of private gain, these scandals will not just recur. They will define the very character of our politics ‘
But the further up the ladder one climbs in politics, the more insistent the temptations become. This is not simply about individual weakness or personal failing. It is structural. Over the past 40 years, Britain has built a society in which consumption, status, and proximity to wealth have become defining features of the political class. The gravitational pull of money is now so great that even those who arrive in Westminster with the clearest sense of purpose find their heads turned.
Angela’s story is not unique. She came from humble beginnings, but the wealth that circles political life today is more concentrated, more brazen, and more intrusive than in the past. The old checks and balances, party rootedness in mass membership, trade union accountability, a press less entangled with oligarchic interests, have all weakened. Where once honour, public service, even a sense of historical duty could command respect, today those values are dimmed in comparison to the pursuit of material position.
The mechanism is subtle but relentless. It is not corruption in the brown-envelope-under-the-table sense. It is the slow, almost invisible turning of heads. You are introduced to those who walked this path before you, former ministers who now sit comfortably in boardrooms or on the payroll of consultancies with six and seven-figure salaries. You are invited to corporate boxes at sporting events, to private dinners, to concerts and premiers. Lavish clothes or spectacles can be “within the rules,” provided they are declared. But by then the damage has been done.
The message is implicit but unmistakable: play the game, listen to us, and you too can enjoy more of this. The logic creeps into your personal life. You stretch to buy the house that can host the right gatherings. You measure your worth by the standards of a world that equates success with possessions and proximity to privilege. And once you are on that path, it is hard to step off.
This is, of course, a simplification of a complex socio-economic and political process. But as someone who came from a council estate myself, I see it all around me in Westminster. And it is not going to be changed by media witch-hunts, the tutting of ethics advisers, or even the occasional burst of public outrage.
As Gladstone once warned, “Nothing that is morally wrong can be politically right.” But in our current system, what is morally questionable is too often normalised, excused, and rebranded as “just the way things are.”
Real change will only come from a collective decision to choose a different path: to stop outsourcing our state to private interests, to end the revolving door between government and corporate boardrooms, to challenge the idea that the role of politics is to serve vast concentrations of wealth.
We can choose differently. We can once again put community, solidarity, and public service at the heart of our political life. We can insist that worth is measured not in the size of one’s house or the company one keeps, but in the contribution one makes to society and the integrity with which one serves.
Until we do, until we decide as a polity to hold up those values rather than the glittering prizes of private gain, these scandals will not just recur. They will define the very character of our politics ‘
Divide and conquer...
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So much for giving train drivers a massive pay rise without productivity
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Reform not fit to run our country.
Whatever she does she has ****ed up big time she will be Starmers fall guy she and the rest of them are not up to the job the
And Labour are