Pregnant at 16, unmarried mother. I like a laugh as much as anyone, but Honourable i can think of other words.
Right Honourable Angela Rayner
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Who went on to become Deputy Prime Minister of the UK. You may not like her politics but there’s no need to bag her background is there?
Its not 1915!
There are a few things to slag her about from what I've seen, avoided paying full stamp duty while slagging tax dodgers?
But this?
So the part about her being honourable, a term used by politicians when referring to each other, then slagging her off for being pregnant and unmarried at 16 was just a dig at her loose morals was it?
So you can slag her off for your opinions, but I can't express mine
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When a Tory gets found tax dodging, I feel like as much as I want him to get done for it, at least he is in line with his values, "all tax is theft" etc When a Labour politician gets caught, I feel like everything needs to burn.
You can of course you can but its a very old fashioned view. I didnt slag her either just said id understand why you could for that!
Reminds me of Victorian Dad cartoon in Viz this thread.
I cant stand her but couldnt criticise her for getting pregnant at 16, cheap shot in my opinion.
As touched on, she has done remarkably well in life "despite" falling pregnant at 16, always a mother 1st and foremost.
As touched on, she has done remarkably well in life "despite" falling pregnant at 16, always a mother 1st and foremost.
Nothing wrong with getting off some tax, I've done as much of it as I could for decades, and have no remorse whatsoever. The ruinous waste there is when governments and QUANGOs get to spending money is terrifying.
That said, I don't preach to others about such things or demand they are sacked when they have cocked up their taxes.
Nothing wrong with getting pregnant at 16 either. That is not a disqualification for anything. The fact that the UK has a deputy PM with no serious intellectual bandwidth, no experience of anything other than climbing the greasy union and Labour party poles is another. As is the fact that the UK currently has a deputy PM whom the actual PM cannot remove from post.
That said, I don't preach to others about such things or demand they are sacked when they have cocked up their taxes.
Nothing wrong with getting pregnant at 16 either. That is not a disqualification for anything. The fact that the UK has a deputy PM with no serious intellectual bandwidth, no experience of anything other than climbing the greasy union and Labour party poles is another. As is the fact that the UK currently has a deputy PM whom the actual PM cannot remove from post.
I've heard this a few times today and still don't get it. Why would he get rid of her before the investigation reports back? Any reasonable employer when faced with an allegation of impropriety appoints an investigator who produces a report giving recommendations and reasoning around culpability. The 'boss' then acts on that report. Why would we expect different for our politicians. We saw what happened under Johnson when he decided to get rid of the Standards Commissioner and it was a joke.
Let's wait for the report. If she is found to have acted in good faith and relied on poor legal advice then she should pay what's due and let that be the end of it. If she deliberately tried to avoid tax, or didn't seek the appropriate legal advice, she should go.[/QUOTE]
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I would be surprised indeed if they report was particularly damming. It would depend on his remit. Referring herself is trying to find a way out, both for herself and her boss, who is notorious for his inability to make a decision.
She used a very small firm, who do not have solicitors among their staff, to do the conveyancing. They have said that they have given no tax advice, and that they are not qualified to do so.
So possibly within the tax laws, possibly not. But hypocrisy on a monumental level given her past behaviour, even if she was just belting out lines she had been given.
Mind, credit where it's due. She is on about £2k net a week, £1300 up until last year. But she can wangle a mortgage for £650,000. Some going that!
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Whenever I have bought a house I had no involvement in stamp duty it was simply a line of cost on the solicitor's bill.
Born into a dysfunctional family, had a poor parental upbringing, was unsupported in education and left school with no qualifications and a baby on the way.
She had her baby, returned to study and gained employment. She became interested in politics, joined a trade union and joined the Labour party. She then worked her way up the ranks to deputy Prime Minister.
That's a determined hard working woman that girls should look up to.
Absolutely! Imagine judging 16 year old lasses who have turned out to be responsible parents, turned their lives around and made something of themselves.
No real evidence of any study, but there is nothing wrong with the rest.
She has learned to climb the poles of the union and Labour party and did It well. It was the members, and particularly the union vote that made her deputy leader of the party.
But she has also been a motor mouth critic of others over tax matters. She is I'm afraid a monumental hypocrite.
I like the fact that she is close to being one of us interns of experience and although not ideal value wise, the fact she isn’t privileged means she has to make decisions like we all do. The alternative is a privilege snake oil salesman from Eton external to her party or one with no knackers or personality. Give her a break and see what comes next. People allowed Sunak with his tax avoiding bullshit and Farage will gift the financial elite to the cost of the everyday wage earner.