Match Day Thread Hull City v Sunderland

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originallambrettaman said:
Bowen played on the right for us as well, Grosicki played on the left.
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Because Grosicki was left footed. I doubt even City would try to play them both on the left together.
I'm shocked they didnt play Grosicki (left footed) on the right and Bowen (right footed) on the left.
At least they werent silly enough years ago to play Ian Butler (left footed) on the right.
 
petersaxton said:
Because Grosicki was left footed. I doubt even City would try to play them both on the left together.
I'm shocked they didnt play Grosicki (left footed) on the right and Bowen (right footed) on the left.
At least they werent silly enough years ago to play Ian Butler (left footed) on the right.
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He wasn’t left footed he was right. Both Bowen and Grosicki played on opposite wings to the foot they were and cut in. Did you have your glasses on the wrong way round when watching them, you’ve got both players dominant foot wrong <laugh>
 
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petersaxton said:
Because Grosicki was left footed. I doubt even City would try to play them both on the left together.
I'm shocked they didnt play Grosicki (left footed) on the right and Bowen (right footed) on the left.
At least they werent silly enough years ago to play Ian Butler (left footed) on the right.
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The days of wingers sole purpose to get to the bye-line and swing a cross in on their dominant foot ended about 20 years ago.
 
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Deano's Volley said:
He wasn’t left footed he was right. Both Bowen and Grosicki played on opposite wings to the foot they were and cut in. Did you have your glasses on the wrong way round when watching them, you’ve got both players dominant foot wrong <laugh>
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Google said: "Yes, Kamil Grosicki is primarily known as a left-footed player. While he can use his right foot, his preferred and stronger foot is his left."
I accept that some people say he's right footed.
You are right that Bowen prefers his stronger left foot but he also prefers to play on the right.
At least I was right about Ian Butler!
 
petersaxton said:
Google said: "Yes, Kamil Grosicki is primarily known as a left-footed player. While he can use his right foot, his preferred and stronger foot is his left."
I accept that some people say he's right footed.
You are right that Bowen prefers his stronger left foot but he also prefers to play on the right.
At least I was right about Ian Butler!
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This is why Google’s AI still needs major work. Grosicki is right-footed. All the major data-tracking sites like FotMob, Sofascore and even Transfermarkt list him as right-footed. Oh, and anyone who has seen him play will know he is right-footed since he dribbles with his right foot and prefers to pass and shoot with his right foot.
 
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Not only is Grosicki objectively right-footed, but he was actually very one-footed. He hardly ever used his left, and I remember someone, maybe Nigel Adkins, told him to work on it. He scored away at Ipswich with his left foot once and he ran off making a cheeky gesture about the fact that he'd very unusually scored with his left foot which he'd been criticised for not using.
 
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PLT said:
Not only is Grosicki objectively right-footed, but he was actually very one-footed. He hardly ever used his left, and I remember someone, maybe Nigel Adkins, told him to work on it. He scored away at Ipswich with his left foot once and he ran off making a cheeky gesture about the fact that he'd very unusually scored with his left foot which he'd been criticised for not using.
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Yeah, he was allergic to using his left foot most of the time. He’d almost always try to cut inside even if it meant less space to get a pass or shot off.
 
petersaxton said:
Why did West Ham buy Bowen and immediately play him on the right? Why did England play him on the right?
It was only stupid City who played him on the left and Bowen played well in spite of it.
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There are inverted wingers playing throughout professional football across the world. It's one of the weirdest things I've seen thrown at out managers and I've seen plenty on here.
 
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petersaxton said:
they are talking about one season
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_records_and_statistics_in_England#Goals
more goals seemed to be scored before the last 20 years
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and yet there’s more goals per game in the premier league than there ever has been consistently for the last 5 years.

in the 92/93 season there was 2.64 goals per game

in the article referenced there was 3.2 and seasons surrounding there’s been an average of about 2.8. There are more goals being scored per game. FACT
 
The B&S Fanclub said:
About time it returned then. Might be the secret weapon in our armoury to stun the league and actually score a few. Worth a punt!
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In the days of statistical analysis, if it was actually more successful, then don't you think it would be more prevalent?

It's all well and good. But you need the pace advantage to be able to do it.
 
HCAFCHangout said:
and yet there’s more goals per game in the premier league than there ever has been consistently for the last 5 years.

in the 92/93 season there was 2.64 goals per game

in the article referenced there was 3.2 and seasons surrounding there’s been an average of about 2.8. There are more goals being scored per game. FACT
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Don't expect hard evidence to the contrary to change his mind. He has his own intuition based on watching pre 90s football and the game cannot possibly have changed for the better.

Don't you know?
 
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Guardiola tried Doku on the right and Savinho on the left a few times last season and he always switched them back to inverted wingers at some point in the game.

Raphinha’s one of the few wingers at elite level who plays on the side of his strongest foot these days and even then he plays more as an inside forward playing off Lewandowski rather than a winger who stays wide and whips crosses in. The days of Beckham and Giggs are gone.
 
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Jim the Tiger said:
There are inverted wingers playing throughout professional football across the world. It's one of the weirdest things I've seen thrown at out managers and I've seen plenty on here.
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You still get bye-line crosses but tend to be more from overlapping fullbacks. Nowt wrong with having the option to cut in or run the line. Keeps defences guessing.
 
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