Match Day Thread Hull City v Sunderland

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I watched the game but it wasn’t as noticeable, to me anyway, as on the highlights, that Kyle Joseph has developed into Liam Delap during the close season, and it was truly great to watch. His bursting runs with the oppo trying and failing to knock him off the ball. Long may it continue. Maybe, just maybe, Bruce never had our pants down, it just took a good manager to get the best out of him.

Or we just needed to not write him off for not scoring in his first few months even though no one else was scoring then either.
 
I posted this back in January and sure enough it transpired pretty much as I feared regarding Joseph:

I think the big acid test now is what happens with people like Matazo and Joseph. We've spent decent money on them on fairly long contracts. These deals need to work now. We're all positive about those players now like we were about Ömür this time last year, but we can't be in a position in a year's time where we're talking about moving them on and replacing them because Joseph doesn't score enough and Matazo doesn't fit the style of the manager we've replaced Selles with.

Hopefully he can continue winning people over and we make it work now.
 
Going by some of your past posts, you seem to have a different lexicon compared to most. :emoticon-0138-think


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.

Just use words unknown to the common masses. Or don’t check what the keyboard has ****ed up with. The choice is yours…
 
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Or we just needed to not write him off for not scoring in his first few months even though no one else was scoring then either.

Agree. Joseph looked like he had something about him. Don’t know what any forward player was expected to do in that absolute tragedy of a team we had last season. All they were doing was chasing aimless punts all game long. There was no service, no support, no moving the ball through midfield, they’d make runs and nobody would pass to them.

Hopefully this season we will see a bit more of what he’s about. You don’t score 8 goals in league one by being ****.
 
Agree. Joseph looked like he had something about him. Don’t know what any forward player was expected to do in that absolute tragedy of a team we had last season. All they were doing was chasing aimless punts all game long. There was no service, no support, no moving the ball through midfield, they’d make runs and nobody would pass to them.

Hopefully this season we will see a bit more of what he’s about. You don’t score 8 goals in league one by being ****.

Josh magennis?
 
The Admiral looks like a dump when it's packed to the rafters on a Saturday home game day..Any other day it just looks like a----'Wetherspoons' and sells ale at a working man's price.


Edit...I was in the one on George Square yesterday(Counting house,old bank,beautiful interior architecture) ,with the Mrs and we went outside to sit.This woman(probably in her 40's was flitting and flirting between 2 tables either side of us). She didn't know these eejits(and they were) from Adam but ****ed off to the toilets with one of them for a quick ****!!!!

Obviously has a high opinion of herself the tart...

i been in that pub. nice interior. ive always wondered why buildings in glasgow are so tall. the ceilings are way too high. (nowt to do with m fear of heights.)
 
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Well, I for one would be happy to see City playing like last night even if the results don’t always go our way. A lot more entertaining than some of the stuff we have seen indecent seasons. Quite impressed how the manager has imbued a different style and approach in a short time. I think this season will be a lot better than many, myself included were expecting. Joseph and Giles seemed like completely different players.
Semi looked the part and the lad from Man City and McArthy showed promise when they came on.
 
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Well, I for one would be happy to see City playing like last night even if the results don’t always go away. A lot more entertaining than some of the stuff we have seen indecent seasons. Quite impressed how the manager has imbued a different style and approach in a short time. I think this season will be a lot better than many, myself included were expecting. Joseph and Giles seemed like completely different players.
Semi looked the part and the lad from Man City and McArthy showed promise when they came on.

Sometimes it takes a certain kind of manager to galvanise a team ethos, from the soundbites and from what I've seen so far this is exactly what he has done. Whisper it quietly, but I'm beginning to think we've got a very decent manager in here who the players are definitely responding to, and as I said earlier, the physicality we're seeing was none existent last year.
 
Forget this playing a right footer on the left, and a left footer on the right bollox. Get them playing on their favoured side. You might see a better end product, eg. Harry Vaughan. The kids natural instinct is to come inside, straight into the clutches of three big centre backs, instead of heading to the by-line...I can't understand the logic, when it's plain to see...

Might just be one of the worst takes I’ve seen on here.
 
What I found most pleasing last night, was the definite change in the way we're setting up, the full backs getting forward quickly at every opportunity, with Crooks dropping back to make a back three when they do (McCarthy was doing the same when he came on, so it's clearly a system we've been working on).

Ajayi is definitely an upgrade on Jones, probably on Egan as well, we just need to hope he stays fit.

I really like the look of Ndala, definite shades of Jaden, he gives us the pace and unpredictability that we've been lacking.

All in all, very promising.

Some of you hate the modern tactical jargon but having a solid ‘rest defence’ with three players at the back, even in back four formations, is really useful.

There’s different ways of doing it. You can play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 that looks like a 3-2-5 or 3-1-6 in possession. Some teams have one fullback bomb forward or invert into midfield and the other stays behind as a third centre-back. Other teams have the number six drop between the centre-backs and have both fullbacks get forward, like we did last night. This is also similar to how Coventry played last season under Lampard. They played 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 on paper but van Ewijk and Dasilva played high and wide and Grimes dropped between the two centre-backs. They’ve signed two more attacking fullbacks this summer so I imagine the plan is the same this season.

Jakirović is quite flexible with his tactics. Having both Giles and Drameh play means the number six drops deep. If Coyle plays, it might be he stays back as a third centre-back and the number six doesn’t drop as deep.
 
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