WAR! What is it good for?

[Citizen Kane.]

Ha go **** yourself ya patronising ****

Shall we just take that one sentence out of context and ignore the rest of what you were saying.. about accusing the BBC of trying to act as Moral voice and ethical barometer ?

You also claimed that it was a 'discrepancy' for the BBC to analyse the murders and how many rounds were fired at the medics. Dismissing it as 'Ethical commentary'

And it is at that point where, due to this discrepancy, reporting of facts degenerates into an ethical commentary.

As was said to you, you are trying to denigrate the work of the BBC, because they have exposed the lies of the IDF over this.

It's a pattern with you, you do the same with any UN agency that does the same.

When a publicly funded mainstream media outlet applies certain standards of journalistic investigation to some conflicts but not to others, that by default creates an ethical commentary.

The BBC is in essence guilty of precisely what you routinely accuse me of:

Operating with an attitude of 'nothing to see here' to all conflicts not in Ukraine or Israel. Their coverage elsewhere is woeful.

The key differences being that I am not funded by the British public, and do not turn a relatively blind eye to every other conflict in the world.

 

[Citizen Kane.]

how often do they find a phone which carried on recording during such an "incident" ffs and if the IDF hadn't tried such a blatant cover up they wouldn't have needed to
so to you on ignoring this obvious point

I have no idea, but in an era where smartphones and advanced surveillance are pretty much ubiquitous in every country with electricity and internet signal, I'd imagine there have been significantly more than just the one the BBC found in Gaza.

The reason the BBC haven't found more elsewhere is that they aren't looking and never will.

 

[Citizen Kane.]

Suppose it depends what you want to see, and with you I'm not surprised you want to ignore the war in Sudan, funded by whole list of countries in military armour, this isn't just a civil war as you would prefer to dismiss it, it's a war like all wars being funded by some of the biggest actors in the trade of death.

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There is also something quite sick in the inference that half a million dead, 8.5 million refugees and 23 million living in famine doesn't matter very much and doesn't deserve much global attention because it is 'only' a civil war.

 

[Citizen Kane.]

Suppose it depends what you want to see, and with you I'm not surprised you want to ignore the war in Sudan, funded by whole list of countries in military armour, this isn't just a civil war as you would prefer to dismiss it, it's a war like all wars being funded by some of the biggest actors in the trade of death.

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Countries supplying munitions to either the RSF or SAF:

China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Ukraine, Yemen, the UAE and Serbia.

The most notable is probably Turkey, who are supplying arms to both sides and making a fat profit as a result.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

 

[FosseFilberto]

I have no idea, but in an era where smartphones and advanced surveillance are pretty much ubiquitous in every country with electricity and internet signal, I'd imagine there have been significantly more than just the one the BBC found in Gaza.

The reason the BBC haven't found more elsewhere is that they aren't looking and never will.

... well apart from the fact that Israel has either systematically destroyed or has control over most means of communication from within Gaza and refuses to allow independent observers in ... not to mention the destruction of power supplies ...

I do accept some of your points but the situation in Sudan is quite different - it is, like it or not, a civil war between 2 armed groups with similar military capabilities - both are fighting for dominance in their own country - neither is able to conduct it's campaign predominantly by the use of fighter jets and sophisticated US backed capabilities ... both have claims to the territory being fought over - neither is attempting the wholesale destruction of a foreign territory ...

The IDF has been caught out by the evidence that has emerged over the ambulance incident - what was going to be passed off as false accusation or possibly 'unfortunate error' has been exposed as wilful deception .... and, of course, begs the question about the legitimacy of other incidents and explanations given... easily avoidable, stick to the accepted rules of warfare ...

 

[brb]

Countries supplying munitions to either the RSF or SAF:

China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Ukraine, Yemen, the UAE and Serbia.

The most notable is probably Turkey, who are supplying arms to both sides and making a fat profit as a result.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

I had been following some of the Sudan war because SKY News have a reporter who is Sudanese, I think she was one of the only reporters in the area at one time. I was like **** that, too close to death covering that, well risky - I said on here previously, resulted in her cameraman being beat up...quote: “Our team was attacked by locals who thought I looked Rwandan, they attacked us pretty viciously and attacked our cameraman.' They just go round shooting people dead on the street just for the hell of it.

See the UK today have announced £128M in aid....as long as Starmer don't take away that triple lock it's not a problem.

 

[PINKIE]

Suppose it depends what you want to see, and with you I'm not surprised you want to ignore the war in Sudan, funded by whole list of countries in military armour, this isn't just a civil war as you would prefer to dismiss it, it's a war like all wars being funded by some of the biggest actors in the trade of death.

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I’m not ignoring or dismissing it. And yes it is a civil war and of course, like all wars it’s being fuelled by a global arms supply.

 

[PINKIE]

When a publicly funded mainstream media outlet applies certain standards of journalistic investigation to some conflicts but not to others, that by default creates an ethical commentary.

The BBC is in essence guilty of precisely what you routinely accuse me of:

Operating with an attitude of 'nothing to see here' to all conflicts not in Ukraine or Israel. Their coverage elsewhere is woeful.

The key differences being that I am not funded by the British public, and do not turn a relatively blind eye to every other conflict in the world.

Absolute bollocks

 

[Spurlock]

Go to bed Piskie

you picked up bare points in CK’ s league table today

c*nt

 

[PINKIE]

Go to bed Piskie

you picked up bare points in CK’ s league table today

c*nt

 

[PINKIE]

The IDF have been exposed again so let’s talk about why the BBC haven’t been counting the number of rounds fired in Darfur ffs

 

[brb]

The IDF have been exposed again so let’s talk about why the BBC haven’t been counting the number of rounds fired in Darfur ffs

For the amount of times you keep on about the BBC, you ought to be paying your TV Licence, you read and watch it far more than I do.

 

[brb]

I'm too ****ing honest that's my problem, pay my TV licence, pay for all my football, getting proper mugged off.

 

[PINKIE]

For the amount of times you keep on about the BBC, you ought to be paying your TV Licence, you read and watch it far more than I do.

You don’t have to pay to read their website.

Anyway @Sucky pays for my TV licence

 

[brb]

You don’t have to pay to read their website.

Anyway @Sucky pays for my TV licence

You have to pay if you watch live tv, which you do.

 

[PINKIE]

You have to pay if you watch live tv, which you do.

I’ve got a ****in TV licence ffs

 

[brb]

I’ve got a ****in TV licence ffs

I know you have, I just wanted to see how you would spin it.

 

[brb]

Oh look...

I'm sure there's probably some good stuff on if you're prepared to trawl through the endless hours of **** that's on there. I'm just not. I ditched my TV years ago and haven't bothered with TV licence since.

Although that said, I did actually buy a small TV for my commercial unit when the world cup was on.

 

[PINKIE]

Ive had one

I know you have, I just wanted to see how you would spin it.

lol, anyway it was @Citizen Kane. who kept brining the BBC up. They’re on his hit list along with the UN, Medicine San frontier, The Lancet and just about anybody else who exposes the IDF’s war crimes

 

[brb]

Ive had one


lol, anyway it was @Citizen Kane. who kept brining the BBC up. They’re on his hit list along with the UN, Medicine San frontier, The Lancet and just about anybody else who exposes the IDF’s war crimes

anyway, question for you, I don't know hence why I'm asking, but something that caught my eye and confused me...

When the fifteen were shot up by the IDF, as I understood it there was one survivor, but how did the BBC get the interview with him, because I thought the IDF had him, so clearly a part of the timeline I've missed somewhere?