Match Day Thread Hull City v Oxford

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It's funny isn't it , Rowett came in and made an immediate impact and they won games ,
now they haven't won in 9 and look to be in trouble

I'm very happy with Ruben Selles , I think we're making slow and steady progress

Thing is if Rowett keeps them up he’s done his job.
 
Regardless of the performance that was another big step toward Championship safety last night. Good to see us turn things around in a nervy game that could have gone way. The officials don’t seem to like City at the moment do they but hopefully common sense prevails in any appeal.


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It's funny isn't it , Rowett came in and made an immediate impact and they won games ,
now they haven't won in 9 and look to be in trouble

I'm very happy with Ruben Selles , I think we're making slow and steady progress
It's a really fine line isn't it and ultimately results are what counts, certainly agree that progress is slow and steady, it's a definite improvement compared to Walterball in pretty much every aspect of our play, but there are still a number of frustrations with how we play, notably our oft feeble performances against poorer teams. At one nil down last night if we had lost that I think it'd have been fair enough for him to stat copping a bit of flack, but he made the changes and won us the game so fair play to him
 
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Regardless of the performance that was another big step toward Championship safety last night. Good to see us turn things around in a nervy game that could have gone way. The officials don’t seem to like City at the moment do they but hopefully common sense prevails in any appeal.


UTT.

They liked us when they didn't flag for offside against Pedro against Plymouth.
 
It's a really fine line isn't it and ultimately results are what counts, certainly agree that progress is slow and steady, it's a definite improvement compared to Walterball in pretty much every aspect of our play, but there are still a number of frustrations with how we play, notably our oft feeble performances against poorer teams. At one nil down last night if we had lost that I think it'd have been fair enough for him to stat copping a bit of flack, but he made the changes and won us the game so fair play to him

Selles has done a great job in a difficult season.

Walter of course had injuries too - but Selles has had more on top of the issues we already had and the best replacements signed to fix it in Jan have also gone for the season.

We shouldn’t forget how poor we were when Selles came in. The fact we are now sitting 5 points above the bottom 3 and in good form is a really decent job.
 
Selles has done a great job in a difficult season.

Walter of course had injuries too - but Selles has had more on top of the issues we already had and the best replacements signed to fix it in Jan have also gone for the season.

We shouldn’t forget how poor we were when Selles came in. The fact we are now sitting 5 points above the bottom 3 and in good form is a really decent job.

With 9 more games and no team giving up/cut loose yet, I think there's going to be a few more twists and turns. Selles has got the form going and done it without an initial new manager bounce that so many teams have benefited from this season - just an opinion, but this indicates that City were in a dire state when he took over, that the players didn't/couldn't raise their game. Always hard to know without knowing the behind the scenes goings on.

Everyone will breath easier when this season is over... It's not been boring, but not enjoyable either, apart from the occasional game.
 
With 9 more games and no team giving up/cut loose yet, I think there's going to be a few more twists and turns. Selles has got the form going and done it without an initial new manager bounce that so many teams have benefited from this season - just an opinion, but this indicates that City were in a dire state when he took over, that the players didn't/couldn't raise their game. Always hard to know without knowing the behind the scenes goings on.

Everyone will breath easier when this season is over... It's not been boring, but not enjoyable either, apart from the occasional game.

I thought we got a "bounce" under him. We improved pretty quickly.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you suggesting Pedro shouldn't have been banned?


Straight Red card is a ban.

Pedro probably got done for intent which I never saw in the challenge as he pulled out ( naughty ) at the last second.


Are you suggesting Puerta deserved that second yellow?
 
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Was really happy to see Palmer back last night. He's the one for me who's shown various times now that he can split open a defence when needed. Something we've been missing so much this season. With players like Gelhardt etc in front of him as opposed to Bedia we should see Palmer contributing a lot more too in the remaining games. If we're anticipating more possession or trying to break down a team we're expecting to be on top of, Palmer should be getting minutes.
 
Was really happy to see Palmer back last night. He's the one for me who's shown various times now that he can split open a defence when needed. Something we've been missing so much this season. With players like Gelhardt etc in front of him as opposed to Bedia we should see Palmer contributing a lot more too in the remaining games. If we're anticipating more possession or trying to break down a team we're expecting to be on top of, Palmer should be getting minutes.
Agree palmer and gelhardt are sharper and see things quicker
 
Was really happy to see Palmer back last night. He's the one for me who's shown various times now that he can split open a defence when needed. Something we've been missing so much this season. With players like Gelhardt etc in front of him as opposed to Bedia we should see Palmer contributing a lot more too in the remaining games. If we're anticipating more possession or trying to break down a team we're expecting to be on top of, Palmer should be getting minutes.

The radio Humberside commentary had Gareth Roberts on, he was saying all first half about the runs behind the defense Crooks was making but the midfield never saw them constantly passing sideways and back. That resulted in two things first Crooks realised they weren't going to pass through for him to run on to so he stopped doing it and then he started to drop deeper into the midfield to try and get a touch of the ball.
 
Straight Red card is a ban.

Pedro probably got done for intent which I never saw in the challenge as he pulled out ( naughty ) at the last second.


Are you suggesting Puerta deserved that second yellow?

No of course not but I pointed out a call in our favour and puerta was one against us. I believe that's called swings and roundabouts. To suggest the ref's don't like us off the back of a bad call is silly.
 
No of course not but I pointed out a call in our favour and puerta was one against us. I believe that's called swings and roundabouts. To suggest the ref's don't like us off the back of a bad call is silly.

It wasn't one bad call, it was continuous bad calls. There were two or three occasions when Kamara was completely taken out and the ref just gestured for him to get up, like he'd dived. They were largely a bunch of cloggers kicking lumps out and they got one yellow card, while we somehow got four.
 
It wasn't one bad call, it was continuous bad calls. There were two or three occasions when Kamara was completely taken out and the ref just gestured for him to get up, like he'd dived. They were largely a bunch of cloggers kicking lumps out and they got one yellow card, while we somehow got four.

I definitely think refs have subconscious biases about fouls, when to call them and who to issue bookings for. If a 6’4” clogger kicks a lump out of a tricky winger like Kamara, he’ll just think it’s the big player using his physicality to his advantage and tough **** for the fouled player; play on.

However, if 5’8” Puerta has a niggle at a bigger guy, it must be a foul because how else would he be able to win the ball? I’ve seen a lot of this in football recently ever since refs got briefed to allow more physical contact in games without calling fouls. That’s fine but some refs just see that as an excuse to allow bigger, stronger players to bully other players whether the contact is clean and fair or not.

Earlier this season when Liverpool played Chelsea, Darwin Núñez went shoulder to shoulder with Renato Veiga and came out on top. It was a fair and clean 50/50 challenge and Veiga got put on his arse. Ref called it a foul. It became a meme because of Núñez and Slot’s reactions but I tried wrapping my head around why the ref would consider it a foul. The fact that Veiga is taller and bigger than Núñez might have influenced the ref to think Núñez had no right to win that challenge.
 
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