Off Topic What is a woke thing?

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Higher approval ratings by who though?

The public obviously, that's who they're adverting to.

'According to Global MONITOR, 65% of consumers say that it’s important that the companies they buy from actively promote diversity and inclusion in their own business or society as a whole'.

It's data like the above that drives the way advertisers target consumers.
 
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I see no issue with that at all, assuming that the underlying story isn't based around the race of the character.

I love the Witcher books/games, but when the Netflix series came out, lots of people flipped their **** cos some of the traditionally white sorceresses were cast with black actors. "It's unrealistic for the region it's set, which is based on medieval slavic europe"

My brother in Christ, it's a story about monsters, mutants and magic. Triss being brown is the unrealistic part?

How does that fit in with the cultural appropriation thing? Which seems to be a growing issue for some.
 
I can’t wait for the MLK biopic with Jake Gyllenhaal.
Yes, I recall that kind of meme image doing the rounds when everyone was frothing at the mouth because Halle Bailey was cast as Ariel.

I preferred to focus on the reactions of the black children who were delighted to see that The Little Mermaid looked like them
 
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The public obviously, that's who they're adverting to.

'According to Global MONITOR, 65% of consumers say that it’s important that the companies they buy from actively promote diversity and inclusion in their own business or society as a whole'.

It's data like the above that drives the way advertisers target consumers.

Fair enough. I did a quick read of this web article which is more specific to the UK:

https://www.clearchannel.co.uk/latest/how-diversity-and-inclusion-can-unlock-audience-growth

Seems to suggest a much lower percent of people polled care about diversity (or improving diversity).
 
Yes, I recall that kind of meme image doing the rounds when everyone was frothing at the mouth because Halle Bailey was cast as Ariel.

I preferred to focus on the reactions of the black children who were delighted to see that The Little Mermaid looked like them

I personally think it’s quite sad that people care more about ****e like Black Panther and a fictional African civilisation such as a Wakanda instead of putting the effort into a film or TV series about Mansa Musa or one of the great West African empires and civilisations that actually did exist that West Africans and their diaspora in the US, UK and Caribbean could actually relate to.
 
How does that fit in with the cultural appropriation thing? Which seems to be a growing issue for some.

Cultural appropriation generally boils down to don't take parts of my cultural identity and use it for fashion or fancy dress purposes. I don't recall seeing anything to suggest this is a generally growing issue
 
I personally think it’s quite sad that people care more about ****e like Black Panther and a fictional African civilisation such as a Wakanda instead of putting the effort into a film or TV series about Mansa Musa or one of the great West African empires and civilisations that actually did exist that West Africans and their diaspora in the US, UK and Caribbean could actually relate to.

That's not something unique to any particular race though. Fantasy fiction is a juggernaut, and Average Joe cares more about LOTR, Harry Potter, Star Wars, Marvel etc than they do about actual historical events.
 
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I see no issue with that at all, assuming that the underlying story isn't based around the race of the character.

I love the Witcher books/games, but when the Netflix series came out, lots of people flipped their **** cos some of the traditionally white sorceresses were cast with black actors. "It's unrealistic for the region it's set, which is based on medieval slavic europe"

My brother in Christ, it's a story about monsters, mutants and magic. Triss being brown is the unrealistic part?

Talking of Christ a black, gay woman is to play Jesus. Realistic, eh?

Same with a black actress playing Cleopatra and daft sods saying it was right because Egypt is in Africa.
 
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That's not something unique to any particular race though. Fantasy fiction is a juggernaut, and Average Joe cares more about LOTR, Harry Potter, Star Wars, Marvel etc than they do about actual historical events.

But LOTR and other fantasy fiction is influenced by European culture, history and folklore, not at the expense of it. The big deal made about Black Panther and Wakanda as this superior technologically-advanced African civilisation that doesn’t actually exist just gave white nationalists a field day to take the piss out of black people i.e. ‘you have no culture and had to make it up’. Wakanda didn’t exist but the Malian Empire did.
 
This record had a really odd censorship history. Initially the BBC thought it was fine and played it uncensored, then in 2007 they decided to edit out the offending words, but then decided it sounded a bit ****, so reinstated the original version. Then they decided it should have the version with the edited out words on Radio 1, but it was okay to play the original on Radio 2, then in 2020 the record company came up with the new version and they all just played that.

In reality, it wasn't really offending anyone and there was no reason not to just play the original, but people are clearly overly cautious with these things.

What’s always puzzled me is just what exactly is the problem that the BBC has with meatballs?
 
Such as?

Also, you might what to consider your use of “them”. It’s othering and suggests that you see people of colour as something separate.

https://humanrights.ca/story/us-vs-them-process-othering

Another who makes something out of nothing. I was referring to a group of people. I would have referred to white people the same. Othering…A good example of woke right there.

People of colour, another change in description.
 
But LOTR and other fantasy fiction is influenced by European culture, history and folklore, not at the expense of it. The big deal made about Black Panther and Wakanda as this superior technologically-advanced African civilisation that doesn’t actually exist just gave white nationalists a field day to take the piss out of black people i.e. ‘you have no culture and had to make it up’.

Black Panther was widely praised for its use of African culture weaved throughout, alongside the obvious fiction of spaceships and superpowers. These White Nationlists you speak of were clearly thick as ****.
 
I, too, am a stickler for injustice. It's why my old forum name was 'Kicking Back'. I even started this thread as a response to something I had read. Having said that, I do think it's an interesting topic to explore, because people regularly throw that word around, and it's never really made any sense to me.
Injustice though, comes in many forms, big and small, and the word 'woke' seems to be applied haphazardly to all of them, which, in my view, somewhat dilutes any meaning, if there even
Commenting on race related things doesn’t mean you are a racist.

It does if you're woke
 
Talking of Christ a black, gay woman is to play Jesus. Realistic, eh?

Same with a black actress playing Cleopatra and daft sods saying it was right because Egypt is in Africa.

Black gay woman to play Jesus in a stage musical which isn't exactly loyal to the source material.

Not that Jesus would be "white" anyway, but seems we're happy to pretend he would be, so he resembles us.
 
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