Off Topic What is a woke thing?

[Kalman II]

Black Panther was widely praised for its use of African culture weaved throughout, alongside the obvious fiction of spaceships and superpowers. These White Nationlists you speak of were clearly thick as ****.

It’s Marvel slop though. Like all Marvel films, it’s just a poor caricature. The Thor films are a **** adaptation of North Germanic culture too.

 

[Cityzen]

This record had a really odd censorship history. Initially the BBC thought it was fine and played it uncensored, then in 2007 they decided to edit out the offending words, but then decided it sounded a bit ****, so reinstated the original version. Then they decided it should have the version with the edited out words on Radio 1, but it was okay to play the original on Radio 2, then in 2020 the record company came up with the new version and they all just played that.

In reality, it wasn't really offending anyone and there was no reason not to just play the original, but people are clearly overly cautious with these things.

There were lots of songs banned by the BBC, though some temporarily.

David Whitfield had a connection with one of them, which still holds a unique status in the charts,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_banned_by_the_BBC

 

[Christophalophados]

It’s Marvel slop though. Like all Marvel films, it’s just a poor caricature. The Thor films are a **** adaptation of North Germanic culture too.

I don't hate them, but we're not debating whether we like Marvel

 

[Cityzen]

Black gay woman to play Jesus in a stage musical which isn't exactly loyal to the source material.

Not that Jesus would be "white" anyway.

He certainly wouldn’t be black. Here’s a novel idea, have him played by a Jewish male.

 

[Christophalophados]

He certainly wouldn’t be black. Here’s a novel idea, have him played by a Jewish male.

Put on your own musical and push back then. Or keep shaking your fists at the clouds.

 

[Cityzen]

Black Panther was widely praised for its use of African culture weaved throughout, alongside the obvious fiction of spaceships and superpowers. These White Nationlists you speak of were clearly thick as ****.

Not so thick as being unable to spell Nationalists though.

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

They can't match IKEA

Tesco now selling a cracking version of meatballs and mash in the ready meal section. Very much like the IKEA version. To be enjoyed by woke and non woke alike.

 

[gftiger]

Talking of Christ a black, gay woman is to play Jesus. Realistic, eh?

Same with a black actress playing Cleopatra and daft sods saying it was right because Egypt is in Africa.

Jesus is a fictional character.

Being mostly Macedonian Greek, with uncertain lineage on her mother’s side, Cleopatra may not have been considered white by today’s standards either, but she’s been played by many, many white actresses – most famously, Elizabeth Taylor. Why are you not as frustrated by that?

 

[Cityzen]

Put on your own musical and push back then. Or keep shaking your fists at the clouds.

Just keep accepting any old **** no matter how incorrect and woke.

 

[Cityzen]

Jesus is a fictional character.

Being Macedonian Greek, Cleopatra wouldn’t have been white either, but she’s been played by many, many white actresses – most famously, Elizabeth Taylor. Why are you not as frustrated by that?

Plenty of evidence that Jesus existed. None that he was the son of God though.

Liz Taylor was more the hue of this Macedonian female than the black woman who played her. Egyptians and Macedonians were both upset by Cleopatra being portrayed as a black woman. The only reason Cleopatra wasn’t as white as Liz Taylor is she saw a lot more sunlight.
Roll on white actors playing Mandela, MLK, Muhammad Ali and others. Why not if they better at the role?

 

[springtiger]

Yes, I recall that kind of meme image doing the rounds when everyone was frothing at the mouth because Halle Bailey was cast as Ariel.

I preferred to focus on the reactions of the black children who were delighted to see that The Little Mermaid looked like them

So are you saying they wouldn’t if she had been white?

 

[Gone For A Walk]

Diversity is an incredibly positive and great thing, and we should all strive to be as inclusive as possible as it enriches everything. How anyone can argue against that is genuinely confusing to me.

In and of itself perhaps.
But when it's pushed in a way that intentionally suppresses (even to despise) our own culture & history it's no longer a positive and great thing.

 

[Christophalophados]

Not so thick as being unable to spell Nationalists though.

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[Ernie Shackleton]

Roll on white actors playing Mandela, MLK, Muhammad Ali and others. Why not if they better at the role?

No problem.


They could just use blackface.

















What???

 

[Christophalophados]

So are you saying they wouldn’t if she had been white?

Assuming "they" = the black kids and not the frothers, yes. Representation matters, and they were pleased to see that she was black like them.

 

[Heimdallr]

No problem.


They could just use blackface.

















What???

50/50 on kingsley in Gandhi... He blackfaced but did have the heritage. My ex had to blackface to blend in when she returned to the country of her race... She has brown hair, light skin and green/brown eyes, so kept on getting over charged for everything, so headscarfed up on the plane.

 

[springtiger]

That’s an adult view , young kids don’t see colour the same way - it’s suggestions like that , that create division isn’t it ?, adults ‘thinking’ for children . My two grandkids are in class with some mixed ethnicity and ‘they ‘ are just friends .

 

[tigerrev]

Jesus is a fictional character.

Being Macedonian Greek, Cleopatra wouldn’t have been white either, but she’s been played by many, many white actresses – most famously, Elizabeth Taylor. Why are you not as frustrated by that?

Jesus is a historical figure. You would struggle to find a serious historian who said otherwise

 

[gftiger]

Plenty of evidence that Jesus existed. None that he was the son of God though.

Liz Taylor was more the hue of this Macedonian female than the black woman who played her. Egyptians and Macedonians were both upset by Cleopatra being portrayed as a black woman. The only reason Cleopatra wasn’t as white as Liz Taylor is she saw a lot more sunlight.
Roll on white actors playing Mandela, MLK, Muhammad Ali and others. Why not if they better at the role?

What about when Mickey Rooney played Mr Yunioshi (a Japanese man) in Breakfast at Tiffany’s?

What about Johnny Depp playing Tonto (a Native American man) in The Lone Ranger?

What about Katherine Hepburn playing Jade (a Chinese woman) in Dragon Seed?

What about John Wayne playing Genghis Kahn in The Conqueror?

What about Marlon Brando playing Sakini (a Japanese man) in The Teahouse of the August Moon?

What about Yul Bruner playing the King of Siam in the King and I?

Are you not outraged by these? Or do they meet your “hue” criteria?

 

[Heimdallr]

What about when Mickey Rooney played Mr Yunioshi (a Japanese man) in Breakfast at Tiffany’s?

What about Johnny Depp playing Tonto (a Native American man) in The Lone Ranger?

What about Katherine Hepburn playing Jade (a Chinese woman) in Dragon Seed?

What about John Wayne playing Genghis Kahn in The Conqueror?

What about Marlon Brando playing Sakini (a Japanese man) in The Teahouse of the August Moon?

What about Yul Bruner playing the King of Siam in the King and I?

Are you not outraged by these? Or do they meet your “hue” criteria?

Peter Ustinov in One of our Dinosaurs is missing.