Transfer Rumours Winter 2025 Transfer Thread

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Howdentiger2 said:
What news can't you comprehend though, just the time taken? Look how long house sales take, sales of businesses or assets etc... a footballer moving clubs isn't much different. Some can be done very quickly ( look at our most recent signing ) but other are much more complex and difficult. Sometimes it's just down to a player wanting to take their time, sometimes it's a club holding out for more money or paying less etc. Sometimes a medical can bring to light something that needs more investigation. Sometimes it can be image rights, sometimes it could be work permits....it's a huge number of things. I just think people are so used to getting information instantly these days with how assessable things are with social media the internet etc ..that it sometimes distorts the reality of things and gives unfair expectations
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I was talking about the Thomas situation. That supposedly we want him and it's all agreed but we're not clear whether Huddersfield can actually do the deal with him being on loan to Nantes. I don't get how that uncertainty remains an ongoing thing. Surely football clubs have access to lawyers and can scrutinise a contract at short notice if required. Either we can do it or we can't. Find out which and crack on. I can't imagine what needs to be worked on over a prolonged period to come to an answer on this. I don't actually care that much, but I find it strange and hard to understand.

My other example was with Barry being recalled by Villa and then left in limbo for weeks while everyone decides where he goes. I can't understand how they weren't able to decide where he goes ages ago. Before even recalling him from Stockport. You'd think they'd want him playing, not sat on his arse for a month. Supposedly everyone does their transfer window planning before the window opens but in this situation it seems like they're figuring it out on the fly which again is hard to understand.

I think on Thomas AlRawdah's guess makes the most sense; that Nantes would have to agree and they're not doing until they have someone else. But the information we've been given makes it sound like an asynchronous process where someone is working on some nebulous ongoing task which somehow contributes to him being eventually released from Nantes.
 
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The cliché goes that "it's not Football Manager" but I think actually that's a bit backwards because football games do often have these arbitrary time constraints like "To make this offer you have to wait three days for a response" which feel unrealistic because surely in real life you could make an offer and have an answer instantly, or have a phone call in which a price is negotiated all at once.

Maybe a better cliche would be that it somehow inexplicably is like football manager.
 
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PLT said:
I was talking about the Thomas situation. That supposedly we want him and it's all agreed but we're not clear whether Huddersfield can actually do the deal with him being on loan to Nantes. I don't get how that uncertainty remains an ongoing thing. Surely football clubs have access to lawyers and can scrutinise a contract at short notice if required. Either we can do it or we can't. Find out which and crack on. I can't imagine what needs to be worked on over a prolonged period to come to an answer on this. I don't actually care that much, but I find it strange and hard to understand.

My other example was with Barry being recalled by Villa and then left in limbo for weeks while everyone decides where he goes. I can't understand how they weren't able to decide where he goes ages ago. Before even recalling him from Stockport. You'd think they'd want him playing, not sat on his arse for a month. Supposedly everyone does their transfer window planning before the window opens but in this situation it seems like they're figuring it out on the fly which again is hard to understand.

I think on Thomas AlRawdah's guess makes the most sense; that Nantes would have to agree and they're not doing until they have someone else. But the information we've been given makes it sound like an asynchronous process where someone is working on some nebulous ongoing task which somehow contributes to him being eventually released from Nantes.
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But you aren't getting your information from the football club and their transfer specialists, you are getting it from a local journalist who is mixing together snippets of half-understood information, a dash of supposition and a dose of trying to sound knowledgeable. It's confusing and vague because your source is vague and confused!
 
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PLT said:
We don't, but that's because nobody explains it. The things we are told are hard to make sense of without more detail, which we don't have.

And that's fine, we're not entitled to know how it works, but it just makes for a strange situation with news that we can't really comprehend.
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Indeed.

But from the sparse and probably often incorrect details that are released, from various sources, some people piece these together to create cast iron judgements and timelines.

Stupid but true.
 
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We're clearly waiting for Nantes to get a replacement or Thomas to kick up enough of a fuss that they send him back. That's nothing to do with the complexity of some clause in his deal but people like to pretend it's more complicate than it is to lord over others.
 
PLT said:
The clichés goes that "it's not Football Manager" but I think actually that's a bit backwards because football games do often have these arbitrary time constraints like "To make this offer you have to wait three days for a response" which feel unrealistic because surely in real life you could make an offer and have an answer instantly, or have a phone call in which a price is negotiated all at once.

Maybe a better cliche would be that it somehow inexplicably is like football manager.
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If that was the case we could start a new save and do this season over.

Transfers tend to favour the selling club in terms of the timeline, so in our case it's twice as difficult because we're trying to get one player from two different clubs.

I highly doubt our transfer team went into this without knowing that there wasn't a break clause, perhaps arrogantly they thought they could just strongarm Nantes into giving him back.
 
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Players can be identified, negotiated with and signed within hours on deadline day. Delays are down to posturing from clubs or from players, not some supposed complexity in their deals. Benson was agreed first day of last january but he held off for a better deal. Barry is being touted around to find the best deal for villa. These aren't super complex high iq contracts, they're just clubs posturing.
 
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balkan tiger said:
If we accept that sometimes the ITKers may actually know something, can we also accept that sometimes nobody knows no matter how many times some try to tell us they do.

Like how the **** does anyone on here know what deal Huddersfield did with Nantes over a player on loan?
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I've seen every contract Huddersfield have ever written...
 
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HullCityInEurope said:
Sorba Thomas was benched for a relegation 6 pointer after being MOTM against Monaco the previous week. I think that’s a decent indication Nantes are preparing for life without him.
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It'll probably come down to who pays the compensation to Nantes and how much for the terminated loan, us or Hudds.
 
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