I’ll be voting Likud probably. I’ve got a very nice pro-Israel Labour MP and it’s a mega safe seat anyway.
It's probably more due to the fact that Israel is by a country mile America's most important ally in the most complex region on the planet, than the influence of the "Jewish lobby" (a dangerous generalisation btw, huge numbers of American Jews are pretty anti-Israel, while the overwhelming majority of American Jews have always voted Democrat). Of far greater influence is the Evangelical lobby, which numbers upwards of 90 million citizens who believe that the second coming can't happen until all Jews are settled in the land of Israel.
SKY News crew stuck with thousands of people trying to flee south Lebanon, seven hours just to travel 15km. Israeli strikes killed 492 people and a field commander, Israel says it has taken out tens of thousands of rockets in strikes, US to send a small number of additional troops to the Middle East. No confirmation of another senior commander being killed.
35 of which were children, no number given for women yet but where children are women are usually close.
We appear to be entering the ‘find out’ stage that Hezbollah fans somehow didn’t anticipate during the ‘**** about’ stage.
I just don't get why Palestinian people (or Lebanese) are allowing terrorists to live within their homes, surely if anything was learned by now after months of war is that Israel will strike anything that harbours them. Would you allow a terrorist to hide in your home and put your kids at risk, at what point do the civilians stand up for themselves and drive those that hide behind them out?
People in Belfast harboured IRA men, can you imagine the **** storm if we had bombed the **** out of Belfast? Civilised countries just don't do that ****.
The civilians are just cannon fodder and acceptable casualties in this conflict, Hamas do not care how many of their people die just so long as they kill some jews If the Hamas fighters were told they could not stay they would probably just shoot the families themselves and then blame it on the jews
Were they, I thought they were struggling to bring justice for those that required it in Ireland, either way they still killed civilians. Plus I'm sure the British Government or it's agencies arranged hits as well. The British were certainly no innocent in some of the events that happened. Plus it was a land we had forced our way onto without the agreement of half of the Irish people, ie we were not welcome.
and that's what the Palestinian people and it;s supporters need to say then, there are two sides to this war mate, it;s not all Israels fault as some like to portray, not getting at anyone in particular.
I agree with much of that but will repeat my original question, what would have been the reaction if we had just bombed the **** out of Belfast with no regard to civillian life?
I don't think you can compare the two, two completely different regions where the logistics between peace and fighting are completely different as a land battle.
I've never served so I can't say but to my naive eyes I see the logistics of the two areas completely different, that the British and Israeli troops would have to cope with. Happy to accept being wrong, but the middle east just seems a fire pit to me occupied by raving lunatics. Not suggesting Ireland didn;t have it's lunatics obviously.
Are you telling me that the Israili army were/are incapable of going into Gaza and sealing the tunnels then rooting out the hamas fighters left in the city? This is/was a sealed city which is very hard to escape from when locked down so in effect the hamas fighters were locked in
I'm sure if the Israeli troops could have done it, they would have, maybe you should lend them your expertise.
