Plus if an owner has sacked a relatively popular manager because his ambitions are higher than 7th place, there will be questions asked when the team are performing significantly worse
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Plus if an owner has sacked a relatively popular manager because his ambitions are higher than 7th place, there will be questions asked when the team are performing significantly worse
Acun concentrates hard on performance. Given that he is showbiz we should not be surprised. It would be great to have a super attacking performance with loads of goals but inevitably it is results that matter the most. It don’t matter if his is building a team in his style it’s the results that will decide his fate. If he loses another three or four games he will be under enormous pressure. Personally I was always happy to win one nil. It’s the three points that count in football. The rest is just a bonus.
Acun won't be worried in the slightest. They delivered the players 14 days ago and will be aware the squad isn't yet complete. We have played a relegated side on Friday and previous to that a promotion favourite. People need to calm down, it's embarrassing.
Yep.
It's been 5 ****ing games
And we've still not fielded what will probably end up our strongest side yet. The new manager has been here just 10 weeks and we've only had many of our signings in the building for under a fortnight. Deadline might have been two weeks ago, but it's not like the players were here training with us that day is it.
Exactly mate. Anybody with half a brain knows that it is a long term project. The signings are not short term options.Yep.
It's been 5 ****ing games
And we've still not fielded what will probably end up our strongest side yet. The new manager has been here just 10 weeks and we've only had many of our signings in the building for under a fortnight. Deadline might have been two weeks ago, but it's not like the players were here training with us that day is it.
However keep your head down otherwise someone will pop up and call you a **** from the safety of their bedsit whilst sat in their underpants
I don't get it or why us of all clubs seem to have such entitled fans. Honestly it's like listening to Man U or Arsenal fans at timesYep.
It's been 5 ****ing games
And we've still not fielded what will probably end up our strongest side yet. The new manager has been here just 10 weeks and we've only had many of our signings in the building for under a fortnight. Deadline might have been two weeks ago, but it's not like the players were here training with us that day is it.
You have to just ignore it Wessie. Went to Ferriby today and heard people slating them too. Proper weird.
I was at Ossett, Ferriby's opponents this Tuesday, and it was exactly the same. Even more bizarre as surely you don't go to 8th tier games expecting top level football
Chris Bolder is a UEFA A qualified coach working with a pittance of a budget yet some bloke next to us appeared to have all the answers as to why top of the table Belper beat his team.
I resisted the urge to ask him why he isn't currently working in the professional game.
Cracking coach is Chris, his Wyke College teams were always very good
Unfair to ask Walter to finish higher than Rosie, given one had £100million worth of talent at his disposal.
Walter’s had a **** hand delt, new manager and new players in a new league in a new country.
Acun is a bit mix messages at the minute, he sacked Rosie because he didn’t like the type of football.
The other night at his q&a, he thought too 10 was achievable but also mentioned top 6. He’s put the pressure on Tim….im not actually sure what I’m saying now
Tims stuck between a rock and a hard place with acun and what he’s been asked to deliver.
If we are around 15th but playing the way Acun wants, is that success or not….?
Walter’s had a **** hand delt, new manager and new players in a new league in a new country.
Acun is a bit mix messages at the minute, he sacked Rosie because he didn’t like the type of football.
The other night at his q&a, he thought too 10 was achievable but also mentioned top 6. He’s put the pressure on Tim….im not actually sure what I’m saying now
Tims stuck between a rock and a hard place with acun and what he’s been asked to deliver.
If we are around 15th but playing the way Acun wants, is that success or not….?
Yep spot on.
To be honest, when Sheff U went ahead last night it was totally against the run of play, they'd done absolutely nothing until that break out of nowhere from our corner. Before that I think every City fan must've been optimistic, but the mood shifted radically at that point. The fact we'd been on top was immediately forgotten, it immediately became more apparent that we were creating nothing from our possession and I doubt anyone had much hope of us getting back into it from the on. That lack of belief and instant loss of hope will he a growing theme if we don't get some results soon.
I think both of those stats are heavily influenced by game state. We're basically always behind, which means the opposition is often sitting back with something to defend, which makes it much harder for us to score and less likely that we'll concede. I'm not sure the raw stats are necessarily proof that our defence is good and our attack is bad, not as bluntly as that anyway. I think if we could keep teams out longer we'd maybe have a better chance of scoring ourselves, or if we could score first we'd give ourselves something to defend and might be able to defend a bit more compactly.
Unfair to ask Walter to finish higher than Rosie, given one had £100million worth of talent at his disposal.
Walter’s had a **** hand delt, new manager and new players in a new league in a new country.
Acun is a bit mix messages at the minute, he sacked Rosie because he didn’t like the type of football.
The other night at his q&a, he thought too 10 was achievable but also mentioned top 6. He’s put the pressure on Tim….im not actually sure what I’m saying now
Tims stuck between a rock and a hard place with acun and what he’s been asked to deliver.
If we are around 15th but playing the way Acun wants, is that success or not….?
Why do people keep citing '100m of talent' as if turning players into lucrative sales is somehow to a manager's detriment? How many of our players look like going for 15m at the moment? Is that not a criticism of Walter? Rosenior took Delap and Philogene who had previously done naff all and earned big fees for their clubs (Man City and us respectively) off the back of their seasons. Carvalho had a rubbish spell in Germany then came here and earned a 28m move to Brentford. It's as if people are criticising Rosenior for getting the best out of players? Zaroury probably the only one who went for a modest fee despite doing nothing here.
What I'll never understand is the automatic equivalence between Top 6 and promotion in so many people's eyes, as if LR coming 7th not 6th was the difference between Championship football and the PL. As if had we made the top 6 we wouldn't have been belted by Leeds or Soton anyway as WBA and Norwich were. We'd still be in this position even if LR had seemingly achieved what everyone wanted him to. Then what would people be moaning about? "Oh we had some 0-0s and 1-1s when we should have finished higher and could have lost the Play Offs with some more points on our final tally"? It's as if Acun's delusion that we actually stood a chance of going up last season has rubbed off on the supporter base and they genuinely believe LR cost us promotion last season. Reminds me of under Shota when people were lumping on us making the play offs when we were about 15 points off because Acun was joking about thinking we could make it and we finished nowhere near. People put way too much stock in his PR spin.
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It's because the criticism of LR on here looks completely stupid now.
And what did LR do with Twine - completely the opposite - he couldn't wait to get out
That's just ridiculous.
Walter has only been here 10 minutes and most of his new players 5 minutes!!! Some have only played their first game, so haven't even played at all yet!!
City (under Rosenior) gave Delap and Philogene the chance to continue their development. He didn't turn them into £15 million players! In fact, I maintain he didn't have a clue how to coach attacking players.
Carvalho was already known as a real quality player, that we did incredibly well to get for that short stay. Rosenior didn't turn him into a £28 million player. Just look at his record. Liverpool decided to cash in.
Then, despite Rosenior's incredible talents, conveniently ignore the fact that Zaroury was a failure!! Along with quite a few others.
I'm not saying Rosenior was useless. Far from it. But come on, let's be sensible.