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Oh look, here's proof of just one of Starmer's big lies today. The media might eventually get him to prove his claims about this mythical far right he sees everywhere. He has no idea what political leanings (if any) those convicted have.

As I said, being weak and dishonest is something some people see as good character traits.

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Toby said:
Seems to have triggered some people, which is no surprise.
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Do you believe showing you as a hopeless liar posting misinformation yet again somehow suggests a person is triggered? <laugh>

It's just an easy opportunity to show how weak your favoured ideology is, and confirms that you lot have no credible arguments.
 
DMD said:
Oh look, here's proof of just one of Starmer's big lies today. The media might eventually get him to prove his claims about this mythical far right he sees everywhere. He has no idea what political leanings (if any) those convicted have.

As I said, being weak and dishonest is something some people see as good character traits.

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The letter is dated 29th July and mentions discussions the week before, which yes would be under the current government from 5th July onwards, BUT they weren't in power back in March, so how would Starmer have known about it if the Tories had kept stumm, which at a guess they probably did.

Is there any evidence that shows that Starmer knew about it before the election, because to me, that don't seem like the evidence that is being claimed, unless I'm missing something - if it was general knowledge that our economy had a blackhole of £22B surely the press would have been all over it, way before the election?
 
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For the avoidance of doubt, as has been mentioned, OBR and Government finance data is in the public domain.

Monthly public finances release
Every month the Treasury and Office for National Statistics produce a joint statistical bulletin on the latest public finances data. On the same day the OBR will provide a brief analysis of the data, explaining how it should be interpreted in light of our most recent public finances forecast for the current year.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) publishes a full list of public sector finances release dates and previous monthly data reports will be available on this page.

https://obr.uk/monthly-public-finances-briefing/
 
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brb said:
The letter is dated 29th July and mentions discussions the week before, which yes would be under the current government from 5th July onwards, BUT they weren't in power back in March, so how would Starmer have known about it if the Tories had kept stumm, which at a guess they probably did.

Is there any evidence that shows that Starmer knew about it before the election, because to me, that don't seem like the evidence that is being claimed, unless I'm missing something - if it was general knowledge that our economy had a blackhole of £22B surely the press would have been all over it, way before the election?
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They were told.

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They were told.

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Yup, there's plenty of evidence, and Sunak was calling it out pre-election too.

Starmer is a proven liar on this, and on other issues.

He's a politician so it's to be expected, although anyone just going by the mainstream media is liable to miss quite a lot of it.
 
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brb said:
The letter is dated 29th July and mentions discussions the week before, which yes would be under the current government from 5th July onwards, BUT they weren't in power back in March, so how would Starmer have known about it if the Tories had kept stumm, which at a guess they probably did.

Is there any evidence that shows that Starmer knew about it before the election, because to me, that don't seem like the evidence that is being claimed, unless I'm missing something - if it was general knowledge that our economy had a blackhole of £22B surely the press would have been all over it, way before the election?
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If a body of work has the words Keir, or Starmer, in it, it instantly becomes a falsehood.

2 of The 10 Gammandments

Thou shalt not believe Keir Starmer.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's Starmer.
 
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