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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jul 3, 2024.

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  1. Evington

    Evington Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if you are taking the piss or not but life expectancy is very much related to socio economic background. If that is true then the Tories are doing everything possible to increase the death rate (in my opinion of course).
     
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    At least for members on this forum <laugh>
     
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    Just my little laugh
     
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    It never seems to be talked about but I think it's pretty clear that Starmer/Labour have very deliberately (and successfully) positioned themselves as being centre-left and moderate because they know it's the way to win an election. Whilst people are sick of the Tories, I think a lot of their ideology is still fairly popular, and left-wing people like myself need to learn to live with that. For example, I think it'd be hard to get elected without saying you're going to clamp down on small boats, or without promising to keep us out of the EU. I suspect Starmer and the others are perhaps more left-wing at heart than they've positioned themselves. But having campaigned and almost certainly won on this basis, it's hard to see how they could implement more left-wing policies. Although some of the stuff in the manifesto is appealing, like the GB Energy company.
     
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    It's been done to death on here so I'm sure we'll regret getting into it but undoubtedly we should've locked down sooner and more clearly. Arguably by being more decisive and listening to the experts we wouldn't have ever had to lock down for as long as we ended up doing. A global pandemic was never going to be fun, but Johnson let it get way out of hand because he wasn't prepared to face the reality of it.
     
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    How much?
     
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    Labour aren't getting in because of anything they have done or how they have positioned themselfs, they are getting the keys to #10 because of how poor Tories are ATM. Nothing more nothing less....it's a default win
     
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    I vote for a dictatorship
     
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    £1.99 and no credit
     
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    Bit like watching city. I'll take any win. A win is a win.
     
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    Klarna?
     
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    I think if we still had Corbynism it'd be very different. I think Labour learned from that and realised that you need to meet people in the middle in order to get elected, rather than setting out your ideal plan for the world knowing that whilst some people would love it, half the electorate would hate it.
     
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    Should tracksuits be banned in non sporting places/events?
     
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    Doing a Tony Blair then
     
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    There would be a lot of Serbians and Florida pensioners walking around naked...
     
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    Two cheeks of the same arse.
    If anyone thinks voting for any politician or party will improve their life they need to follow the money.
    The country is controlled by people way above dickheads like Karl Turner and Graham Stewart
     
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    For all the media coverage, the Country doesn't exactly feel like it's gripped with election fever does it?

    That apathy sits with politicians, the media and the civil service. I'm sure there are others that can be added to that list.
     
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    Imo, it's been good to be able to make political comments, to read other's comments and 'debate'.
    5 years is a long time.
    How about we have a 6 monthly or annual window on here like this one to discuss / assess progress?
     
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    Maybe yeah. He did a lot of good from my point of view as a left-wing person, despite being described by other left-wing people as a red Tory. I think perhaps a weakness of left-wing people is that sometimes we demand perfection and nothing less, and dramatically call anyone that isn't our idea of perfection a Tory in disguise.
     
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    I've read enough of your posts to know you're awake to how things work. I feel this is a real indication of how many others feel the same. The system is bread and circuses. People are becoming wise to the fact these puppets are all part of the theatre.
     
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