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Didnt Jody Morris get alot of the 'credit' for the way Derby and Chelsea played while Lampard was there?
 
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The Challinor conversation is pointless anyway, he's already been ruled out by the club. I only mentioned him as someone I'd prefer to Lampard, that doesn't mean i'd be buzzing with Challinor just less disappointed than I would be with Lampard.

We can do so much better than Lampard. It's a boring, ambitionless appointment.
 
Don’t fall into the trap mate, ends in tears when they don’t come :emoticon-0102-bigsm

I only saw them under him twice last year, the 0-0 here where they were okay/we were awful but wasteful then against Leeds where they were excellent, the way he turned the tide there is what I find most impressive about him, exactly what’s needed here….
More I read about Cifuentes more I think he would be a very good fit. He has an ethos of attacking football but is quite pragmatic with his style seems very adaptable. Also he has a record of turning clubs around and pulling things together. Hes a proper manager seems to work well under pressure.
But like you say maybe I'm falling into the old trap of hope and optimism.
 
The Challinor conversation is pointless anyway, he's already been ruled out by the club. I only mentioned him as someone I'd prefer to Lampard, that doesn't mean i'd be buzzing with Challinor just less disappointed than I would be with Lampard.

We can do so much better than Lampard. It's a boring, ambitionless appointment.
Agreed. Hopefully doesn’t happen
 
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More I read about Cifuentes more I think he would be a very good fit. He has an ethos of attacking football but is quite pragmatic with his style seems very adaptable. Also he has a record of turning clubs around and pulling things together. Hes a proper manager seems to work well under pressure.
But like you say maybe I'm falling into the old trap of hope and optimism.
Hahaha I’m right in there with you mate, hoping it’s true and wrapped up soon, if the willock rumour is true too then there’s another plus with them having worked together at qpr
 
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Howe has already ruled himself out of the running - although that was likely just to curry favour with the jordee naschun. This article just feels loaded to make the mags think they are bigger than England by pretending the FA want Howe so Wilson and all the other mags can pull themselves dry when he apparently turns down the approach that never happened.
 
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For what it's worth, nixon is saying we've been speaking to Marti Cifuentes since last friday
I’m not saying that this would be the case with Cifuentes but football is littered with examples of clubs stumbling across coaching and player appointments way down their preference lists and it working out superbly for them (often likely better than their first choice would have).

We’re clearly not as smart as I was hoping we were, let’s hope - whoever we end up getting - that we’re lucky.
 
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Howe has already ruled himself out of the running - although that was likely just to curry favour with the jordee naschun. This article just feels loaded to make the mags think they are bigger than England by pretending the FA want Howe so Wilson and all the other mags can pull themselves dry when he apparently turns down the approach that never happened.

He'd be off like a shot if the contract was in front of him like.
 
Definitely don't want Challinor. Totally unproven at this level of football, as well as the level below us. He's never managed above League Two.

Lampard would be a risk...has positives, has negatives. There's worse out there, and better, but we're struggling attracting the better.

As Carlton Palmer put it, it's going to take a coach who's desperate to get into work to come here and work with our set up. Lampard might just be desperate enough.
Charlton Palmer knows nothing about what's happening at Sunderland. Pure guesswork and clickbait
 
I don’t know a great deal about Cifuentes but that QPR squad he had was full of championship experience. Begovic 36. Cook 33. Colback 34. Adomah 36, to name a few. Their starting XI against Leeds when they won 4-0 didn’t have a single player under the age of 26.

Experience isn’t everything but he’d be inheriting a totally different squad here…
 
He'd be off like a shot if the contract was in front of him like.
Not so sure. International management isn't the pinnacle anymore - look at the managers England have had over the last couple of decades - unemployable elsewhere, end of their careers or foreigners. Who was the last genuinely top coach to manage England? Venables? Hoddle?
 
Xabi Alonso relegated from La Liga 2 in his first coaching role, his second is the job he's currently in.

Challinor is not my ideal appointment, nowhere close to it in fact, but you can't close the pool on potential appointments because of things like level they've coached at.

And if you want to bring irrelevant things like win percentage into it, Lampards is shocking.
In fairness my choice wouldn't be Lampard or Challinor but think Lampard is the better one of the two. Think we both agree that we hope it's not between them two at least
 
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Not so sure. International management isn't the pinnacle anymore - look at the managers England have had over the last couple of decades - unemployable elsewhere, end of their careers or foreigners. Who was the last genuinely top coach to manage England? Venables? Hoddle?
I’m not so sure he would like. He’s got a canny gig with the filth

I think it's still one of the top jobs (England), certainly bigger then Newcastle who despite their megabucks are stuck with FFP and a fanbase they will demand more and more in the coming years. Living in the Peak District and training with the best in the country once every two months sounds like a good gig. Horses for course and all that but I think he'd be off personally, he'd be daft not to.