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Beale was hated at Rangers yet they’ve brought in Clement who’s done no better. Hasn’t won a single game against Celtic in about 4 attempts this season.

Rosenior might be a nicer bloke to work with, he seems like a decent man manager but Beale had a much better win rate at QPR than Rosenior did with Hull, and practically the same with Sunderland as Roseniors Hull and we categorise his stay here as ****e. That Hull squad was much better than both ours and QPR’s too.

Not trying to cause any drama just wondering what people are basing their opinion off other than seeing a video of a team talk on twitter after they beat Huddersfield 1-0.

The problem with Beale wasn't results, he got 14 points from 11 games. Mowbray only got 13 points from his first 11 games and there was no calls for him to be sacked at the time.

Beale's face didn’t fit from the start.
 
Also to add to this, I see people using players like Delap and Connolly in regards to "THAT squad" they both had failed loan spells and **** seasons before rosenior. Philogene was a young lad from villa that had subpar loan spells before hull too. The only reason people seem to rave about that squad is because of Carvalho, Zaroury and Ryan Giles. You can bring in good players but if they don't work in the system you've been doing well with, they don't work.

I feel like the hull squad is being overrated massively
Add in the quality of Greaves at CB who’ll go for big money and the experience of players like Seri/Tufan/Omur and you might’ve had a point…

I feel it was a better and more equipped squad than ours was, who people definitely overrate.
 
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Unfortunately this has became the norm with large parts of our fanbase, they think our players are better than they are. No denying we have a lot of potential talent in the squad but at the minute a lot of them are nowhere near and we have too many in the starting Xl imo, which I think most of us have already agreed all season we lack a bit of experience to help guide the younger players through tough games. Philogene had 18 goal contributions in 32 starts this season, Clarke had 21 in 45 starts last season and we’re quick to claim he’s the best winger in the league and he’s worth £30m yet we dismiss other teams talent. Tufan is a full international with a lot of experience playing for Fenerbahce, including in the CL. If he’s ****e then what on earth are our players? Super ****e?

I think it’s one of those where you ask Hull fans to do a combined Xl they’d have barely any of our players and most of our fans would do the same back if asked for their combined Xl.
I mean, the international stuff doesn't mean much Styles, Ballard, Hume are all full internationals. Yeah granted his experience with Fenerbache was good but when he first joined hull he wasn't doing as well as he did last season. No-one is dismissing their talent it's just not as insane as people are claiming. Missing out on the playoffs by 3 points is being used as a way to call rosenior ****e by a lot of people when in reality it's his first full season
 
The problem with Beale wasn't results, he got 14 points from 11 games. Mowbray only got 13 points from his first 11 games and there was no calls for him to be sacked at the time.

Beale's face didn’t fit from the start.

He just came across as sly to me ...

... whereas Neil was openly crafty.

I didn't like either personally but Beale made me wince when I saw him on the touchline. I think he alienated the players and that's perhaps why Dodds didn't do as well in his second stint.

A clean slate is definitely needed and a good pre-season.
 
Add in the quality of Greaves at CB who’ll go for big money and the experience of players like Seri/Tufan/Omur and you might’ve had a point…

I feel it was a better and more equipped squad than ours was, who people definitely overrate.
it was which is why they finished 7th. They missed out by 3 points. Not as if they completely ****ed it
 
it was which is why they finished 7th. They missed out by 3 points. Not as if they completely ****ed it
3 wins from their final 13 league games. They were in a great position for a play-off spot…

Not that I particularly care like. They were poor in both games against us last season, turned over off the mighty Beale.
 
Crikey still no news regarding anything concrete in the press, this is starting to get worrying
 
On what basis though? Because statistically he’s not.

I’m just playing devils advocate because I’ve literally seen the same **** with Still, Wicky, Jansen and now Rosenior. As soon as people think we’re close to appointing them they watch a video and decide they’re the next Pep.
Just out of interest, seeing how you have negative thoughts on the above people we were apparently interested in, who would you prefer, that is within our scope?
 
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3 wins from their final 13 league games. They were in a great position for a play-off spot…

Not that I particularly care like. They were poor in both games against us last season, turned over off the mighty Beale.
Tbf, Dodds beat farke and corbenan
 
The problem with Beale wasn't results, he got 14 points from 11 games. Mowbray only got 13 points from his first 11 games and there was no calls for him to be sacked at the time.

Beale's face didn’t fit from the start.
His face did not fit. And he wasn't a relatable or likeable character was the same at Rangers.
However I would have happily lived with that. My problem with him was on the pitch.
He completely stifled our play. The young lads just stopped expressing themselves and appeared to be going through the motions.
Every game was like a coaching session with no end product.
The club were absolutely right to bin him early. In my view he would have seriously hampered the development of our young players.
The unfortunate thing is they did not replace him immediately
 
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Unfortunately this has became the norm with large parts of our fanbase, they think our players are better than they are. No denying we have a lot of potential talent in the squad but at the minute a lot of them are nowhere near and we have too many in the starting Xl imo, which I think most of us have already agreed all season we lack a bit of experience to help guide the younger players through tough games. Philogene had 18 goal contributions in 32 starts this season, Clarke had 21 in 45 starts last season and we’re quick to claim he’s the best winger in the league and he’s worth £30m yet we dismiss other teams talent. Tufan is a full international with a lot of experience playing for Fenerbahce, including in the CL. If he’s ****e then what on earth are our players? Super ****e?

I think it’s one of those where you ask Hull fans to do a combined Xl they’d have barely any of our players and most of our fans would do the same back if asked for their combined Xl.
I personally think we've got a squad full of real talent. We just need a decent coach for it to be properly showcased. Mowbray, as much as I liked him, is far from the top level of coaching talent that could be attracted to this level and he had this seasons squad in and around the playoffs with the potential (based on the underlying stats) to push on and cement that position in the second half of the season. With a Rohl or a McKenna I'm adamant we'd have been right up there.
 
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I'd be more worried if it came out talks had broken down with Rosenior.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit. Or just another leak like the Jansen one.
We are no longer interested in him.
If its not him then will have to be some real wild card. No other names apart from Cifuentes being remotely linked