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7Mackem78 said:
So from what AZ Alkmaar was saying, I'm not sure I'm as keen as I was about Jansen. Sticking to one game plan, being stubborn not to change, making the same tactical changes week in, week out raises many red flags.

I thought part of Mowbray going was because we'd been found out how to play against us and nullifying our threats. This summary of Jansen makes me think this is the way it would go, after an initial period where opposition coaches figure us out. It's making me lean more towards Rosenior instead if it is a two horse race, as I feel longer term it would be a better choice. I could be, and hope to be, proved wrong.

I've missed a chunk of today's posts, so maybe my concerns have already been addressed and answered (positively I hope).

Either way I will back whoever comes in.
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Difficult to know who and what to believe isn't it ...

... from the Hull Daily Mail,

"Rosenior’s married to his philosophy and will admit he’s stubborn at times, he’ll admit that his Plan B is to do Plan A better, it’s the arrogance football managers must display to ensure they do not allow themselves to be distracted by those who don’t agree, and he is no different. Perhaps at times, certainly at home, his desperation to stick to his principles have perhaps been his undoing."
 
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Bob the Mackem said:
Nads, with respect, when i posted it would be Thursday or just before subject to the staff levels, the agent who told me said it was almost complete.
KLD posted the statement to be fair, it is almost done.
should we just wait till its announced, me and loads of others are tired of the same rhetoric.
FFS i hope it works out for us the lads are back in next week, some are back in the area now.
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I di like the speculation mate and I appreciate when you and others drop the goss, accurate or otherwise.

I will never understand those waiting in the wings to have a pop at the club and ownership.

The Facebook ‘fan’ pages are full of the ‘destroying the club’ tribe.

A promotion, a near miss and a squad worth £100million plus. A fixed academy and stadium updates and refreshing doesn’t strike me as destroying anything.
 
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Nads said:
I di like the speculation mate and I appreciate when you and others drop the goss, accurate or otherwise.

I will never understand those waiting in the wings to have a pop at the club and ownership.

The Facebook ‘fan’ pages are full of the ‘destroying the club’ tribe.

A promotion, a near miss and a squad worth £100million plus. A fixed academy and stadium updates and refreshing doesn’t strike me as destroying anything.
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I can't remember a time when the foundations of the club were being so steadily built ...

... and it's being done quietly and calmly without allowing the inevitable setbacks to throw everything up in the air.

In the face of some serious flak KLD has kept his nerve, fair play to him.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
I know, I just disagree.

I've not looked at either record tbh, so it's just a feeling.

Having said that I just clicked onto a recent Hull game, to look at stats, etc.

It was Stoke at home, at the end of March, and they needed a win ...

... they lost 2-0 and didn't have a shot on target.

It was a pressure game and he hasn't had many of those, like I say just a bad feeling.

For an owner to openly sack a manager, because his football was boring, there must be something in it.

It's usually 'mutual consent and we'd like to thank the manager for all his hard work'.
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https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2022-11-27/320-hull-city-fans-arrive-in-turkey
Sounds like a great story but I’ve heard other versions of the owner. If I’m being cryptic that he’s a bit of dick. Let’s see how his ‘mouthy’ separation pans out
 
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Smug in Boots said:
Difficult to know who and what to believe isn't it ...

... from the Hull Daily Mail,

"Rosenior’s married to his philosophy and will admit he’s stubborn at times, he’ll admit that his Plan B is to do Plan A better, it’s the arrogance football managers must display to ensure they do not allow themselves to be distracted by those who don’t agree, and he is no different. Perhaps at times, certainly at home, his desperation to stick to his principles have perhaps been his undoing."
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This was about passing from the back. The Mowbray outers might agree, many others have suggested Mowbray’s football is what we want back.
 
Pure River Slut said:
This was about passing from the back. The Mowbray outers might agree, many others have suggested Mowbray’s football is what we want back.
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When it was good under Mowbray, it was great. And I wasn't a Mowbray out guy, but did understand it as felt we'd been found out.

I think for me that's one of the most frustrating things as a fan, when you and others can clearly see something isn't working yet nothing is done to change it. Or something is done, but it's the same thing that's done every week.

Not every team is set up the same way, so not every team will be broken down in the same way. It's not rocket science, but does require some flexibility and adaptability.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
There's a couple of things nagging away in the back of my mind tbh.

Firstly Rosenior went back to manage a club he'd spent 5 years at so was probably quite comfortable and not, with respect to Hull City, a high pressure job with huge expectations ... Sunderland is different, especially after last season.

Also Jansen speaks at least two languages although I'd expect at least German as another, we need that imo. He's also worked in the UAE so coming to England wouldn't phase him in the slightest. Could I ever see Rosenior going to manage in Holland, not really ... and that says a lot for me.

I want someone bold and with courage, it's a pressure season for everyone at the club.
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From what I've read of Jansen he seems a decent bloke and a good coach etc.
I'm also more inclined to think 51 is a good age.
You can't buy experience and imo some of these young uns talk shìte to get a gig nowadays.

And I just have a daft intuition feeling about the bloke.
You know what I mean? "It's the hope I can't stand" :emoticon-0148-yes:


Anyways,
I hope we appoint someone soon just so arl the whinging fookers from rtg fook off back there :emoticon-0148-yes: <laugh><laugh><laugh>
 
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I'm not particularly excited by either of the two we are being heavily linked with given the colour of the conversation we are having about them.

Both sound solid-ish if somewhat missing that shade of inspiration many of us were hoping for.

Would maybe prefer Rosenior given the talk from AZ about Pascal's tactics but the Dutchman's track record with youth is appealing.

That said, I'm still not seeing particularly solid sources saying we are down to those two, so I'm open minded about who it is going to be.
 
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