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The team we could have.

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Cest Advocaat, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    There is a lot of debate about who we bought in the summer and if they are good enough. Well, imo, if we had a tactically aware manager we could have a far better return from our squad. This team would have been good enough to beat Wigan. Why wasn't it picked from the start of the season?

    Westwood

    O Shea, Brown, Turner, Bardsley

    Larsson, Vaughan, Gardener, Sessegnon

    Bendtner, Wickham, or Ji or Noble
     
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  2. Apone

    Apone Active Member

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    The reason it wasnt picked is the manager is inept.
     
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  3. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    thats about the best we are going to get with whats available <bubbly>
     
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  4. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Just one question Cest..

    Do you see O'Shea as our r/b or should he be c/b?

    Not knocking Turner, but how about O'Shea and Brown.
     
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  5. poolie_mackem

    poolie_mackem Well-Known Member

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    harsh not to include Richardson in that side as for me he has been canny this season.

    even looking at that team though it is still pretty average compared to the team we had this time last season, we certainly have gone backwards
     
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  6. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    If I was really harsh, I'd replace him and put him on the bench. He has been a huge disappointment for me and turner is improving imo.
     
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  7. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    yes we have gone backwards but i feel thats the best with whats availible at the mo <bubbly>
     
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  8. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Richardson and gardener can fight it out then.

    That team is worse only because we lack any real firepower. Had Bruce done his job and replaced bent we wouldn't be struggling imo. That's the managers fault 100%
     
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  9. mackemwelder

    mackemwelder Well-Known Member

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    Can't understand why Cattermole is getting a game ahead of both Vaughan & Gardener?
     
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  10. connor wigham

    connor wigham Active Member

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    because 4,4,3 is 1 more then your aloud ;)


    no tbh i think the managers is working at the worng level like i have said loads of times in my articals
     
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  11. Billy Death

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    He did say or, then or again man.
     
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  12. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Think you just mis-read it mate....sure he means that's only 2..just a mis-placed comma.
     
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  13. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    The side is very average, we must admit it.

    It's the harsh reality.
     
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  14. The Mackem of Oz

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    its the midfield that is worse, and strikers. defence is OK. but look at who we have lost and not replaced:

    Zenden - should of been offered a 1 yr contract
    Malbranque - same as above
    Henderson - good money but not replaced. he may of went sideways a lot but he had pace
    Muntari - i know he was s**t for us, but a world class player given a full season would be awesome
    Riveros - god knows why he didn't perform. maybe because of bruce. but maybe this is who we are missing??

    IMO all of those would walk into our starting line up.

    Forwards:

    Welbeck - we all knew he wasn't stopping...but where was the planning. buying Wickham and Ji still left us 1 short.
    Bent - who knows why he left. I know money played a part, but something else must of went on. Not replaced.
    Gyan - creedy again..but he must of known how bad Sunderland were, and also he seems to not like Bruce...still not talked to him yet? Not replaced.

    Even defenders we have let go:

    Hutton - 4 million we should of snapped their hands off for him (i know he was the season before but he only left to AV this summer)
    Mensah - is there something wrong with our physios, because he seems to be playing fine for Lyon
    Ferdinand - i still think this was a mistake letting him go. he was decent with Brown.

    Overall we have seriously went backwards...
     
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  15. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    All agreed mate.

    Problem is, will anyone want to play for Bruce now? Fans on his back, uneloquent handling of media. ****s creek mate, never mind the paddle, we haven't got a ****ing canoe!
     
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  16. Moorsleymountainman

    Moorsleymountainman Active Member

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    Agreed it does look average. But if the man stopped changing the team every game and even more during the game,
    Gave the S-T-R-O-N-G-E-S-T 11 plenty of game time they would at least have a bit of cohesion, build an awareness of each others game and (his words) G-E-L. At the moment he changes players for no other reason that picking out straws out of his hand. AND WHAT THE **** HE DOES DURING THE MATCH IS SOMETHING WORSE THAN ******ED.
     
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  17. goldie

    goldie Well-Known Member

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    Not one player is good enough for our team. This policy Bruce has of signing numbers of average players has failed.
     
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  18. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    First prize for the most obvious post of the day. You beat Chapped arse to it.

    If we signed Tevez, Iniesta, Messi and Xavi you would spout your bias ****e they werent good enough for Real Noocarsel.

    Without Ba what would be your points tally this season? Work it out daft lad. Thats the biggest difference between top 10 and bottom 10.

    You have a goal scorer and we dont.

    So change the ****ing record you boring little tit.
     
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  19. goldie

    goldie Well-Known Member

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    So who would get in our team exactly?
     
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  20. Mackemneil

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    I agree with this too, and my worry is that if Bruce stays he is likely to rely on Campbell coming back rather than going out and getting the 'proven goalscorer' we need.

    I would also buy Onouha as back up for the defence and a creative central midfielder who can dominate games.
     
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