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Rosenior Out

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Sir Cheshire Ben, Nov 12, 2022.

  1. Tony Angelino

    Tony Angelino Well-Known Member

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    Would you at the minute trust him to rebuild this team in the summer and change his approach to make us more creative, bearing in mind he said he was doing that at the start of this season
     
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  2. Howdentiger2

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    90% there..... So getting a team attacking with pace, being able to break teams down when they set up to stop us playing, sorting out our home form, getting us consistently creating chances, getting us scoring goals and stopping the giving away of daft goals at the back is only 10% of what a successful manager needs.

    You really do talk some rubbish at times
     
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  3. Tony Angelino

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    If as it’s been suggested that some of the players have spoken to tan, even the players don’t think they are 90% there
     
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    There's definitely been some talks behind closed doors or should I say I'm as sure as I can be, I've heard it from a few different people now and I know someone else on here has heard the same as me. Could just be the politics of a football club, but there's ( apparently ) some unhappy campers.
     
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  5. Mckechnie Orange

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    I don't think he'll be the ultimate force behind it, but he'll be influential.

    But the current recruitment team are behind this year's recruitment, which was better than last year's, and on a different planet to the previous years.

    So why not?
     
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  6. Tony Angelino

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    How is it better than last years. It’s the same crew isn’t it ?
    And you trust Rosie to be able to do with the new team what he can’t quite do with the current one?
     
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  7. Mckechnie Orange

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    I think he'll push to recruit specifically for pace and tempo, and I wouldn't be surprised a bit of experience also. But not sure that will fit the recruitment model.
     
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  8. Tony Angelino

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    Pace is irrelevant as we’ve got it, the style he plays slows us down and that’s what I’m getting at. I don’t think he’ll change that style
     
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  9. Mckechnie Orange

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    Passing tempo. Someone adept at setting one.
     
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  10. Tony Angelino

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    His style doesn’t allow for it, it’s too cautious, we’ll just end up passing sideways and back to Allsop quicker
     
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  11. zimozimo

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    When I was starting out in my career I was part of a project team that won an award and I started to think I was **** hot, and got incredibly frustrated at my manager for not giving me the promotions and pay rises I felt I deserved. I got so fed up I booked a meeting with my manager’s manager to ask why I was being overlooked. Turns out, I wasn’t being overlooked, I was just young, inexperienced and full of myself – and still had a lot more to learn than I’d realised. My manager had even been making sure I was getting more opportunities than I probably deserved. In hindsight, I was an idiot at the time and must have come off a fool.

    My point is, that just because there may have been an unhappy player or two that have thrown their toys out of the pram and gone to Tan, doesn’t mean that anyone at the club is going to think LR has done anything wrong, and it could just reflect badly on said players.
     
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  12. Howdentiger2

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    Quite possibly, or could be the complete opposite.... Time will tell. But in football player power ( and it's more then one or 2 ) has way to much strength
     
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  13. Mckechnie Orange

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    Wonder how many of them have a contract or expect to be with us beyond summer, or who haven't been told they're not in plans?

    'Cos that's where the power is.

    The few who are staying. Who we want to keep.
     
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    Here’s a question for all the posters on here that seem to be getting giddy about the prospect of Rosie getting the sack – who would you even want instead?
     
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    Do we though? I think when you look across the team there's not a lot of pace. Maybe Philogene but it's ages since he actually sprinted. Maybe Zaroury? Again not sure we see it much. Ohio is supposedly fast but we'd have to see him against a defence that aren't sitting back to be able to test that, and he's obviously lacking in other areas that mean he didn't get on the pitch a lot anyway. Connolly used to be fast but again, whatever's going on with him is meaning that we don't see it. I think our regular 4/5 attacking players of recent weeks are fairly sluggish on the whole.

    I think pace is one of the main things I'd be looking to add to the squad this summer, particularly in attacking areas.
     
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    Pace is next to useless without space in behind. if you don't have the power to compete physically with a low slung backline and midfield right on top especially

    I agree that pace of individuals isn't really the issue, it's guile to break down a solid defence that's the issue.

    At the moment we have too many trying to do it by themselves.

    Yes there's a time and place for taking responsibility, but that responsibility doesn't extend to being self indigent, or only taking a risk for certain others when there's a better option etc...
     
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  17. Mckechnie Orange

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    Probably someone out of reach, like Potter, someone who doesn't want to work within the structure, or someone who's failed more times than Rosenior.

    I'm quite sure if Howden gets his application in then our problems will be sorted within a few weeks though and we'll be top 6 before we know it....

    Or maybe Kalaman as a left field option?
     
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  18. Benjo

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    So should we be bringing in pacey players over summer or not?

    If we just played to try and get at teams more I think these attacking problems would quickly start to go away. I'm hoping we see this v Cardiff and the shackles come off, but then I still don't think we'll learn.

    I don't think anyone can hand on heart say that the attackers we've got right now shouldn't be creating more good efforts on goal than they are doing.
     
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  19. SydneyTiger14

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    They went from 1st to fourth with 2 wins in about 10 games and they stuck with him and he pulled them back up into the Autos. Like us sticking with Grant in a reasonably similar situation.

    Per wiki ;)

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    Next season the three relegated clubs will quite likely be Burnley, Luton and Sheff Utd. A far cry from Leeds, Leicester and Southampton whose resources are far bigger. There is no reason not to think next season will be the most open Championship season in quite some time.
     
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