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New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    It's funny how short the collective memory is. Well into the 50s, if not later, British clubs had Managers or Secretary Managers whose job was administrating the team(s), dealing with transfers etc. In effect, they were a bit like a Director of Football. Coaching and preparing the team was carried out by the Head Coach. Managers who got involved in coaching were a rarity and it was from them that the term 'Tracksuit Manager' was coined. Things are just going full circle. The only difference being that, in Britain, there was no tactical thought involved as everyone was wedded to the WM.
     
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  2. Coastal Dolphins

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    Beale was a disaster as a head coach/manager.
    Rangers 3rd in a 2 horse race - aye let's give him the safc job.
    OGS is a different level altogether to Beale and Dodds/Proctor shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence but somehow they are thanks to Speakmans shortcomings.
     
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  3. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    Circles.
     
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  4. Coastal Dolphins

    Coastal Dolphins Well-Known Member

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    The proof will be in the season ticket sales they don't make if this lack of ambition and foisting dodds/proctor on the next head coach/manager continues. It will be massively reducing the amount of candidates wanting the position.
     
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  5. SourPatch2

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    Shocking at Cardiff, shocking at Man Utd, poor second spell at Molde. No.
     
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  6. Coastal Dolphins

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    He was not shocking at Man utd at all. Do a bit of research.
     
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  7. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    From my interpretation Clough was basically an incredibly charismatic DoF/front man and Peter Taylor the tactician/coach between the two.
     
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  8. The Norton Cat

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    Pretty much it, I think. Although I think Taylor did a lot of the scouting too.
     
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  9. SourPatch2

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    Style of play was awful, didn't win a trophy and lost multiple finals/semi finals, multiple embarrassing defeats such as; 0-5 v Liverpool, 4-1 v Watford and 1-6 v Spurs, losing home games to the likes of Burnley, Palace (twice) and Sheff Utd, having the worst start to a season in Man Utd history, having the worst run of home games without a clean sheet since the 50s.

    And thats not to mention his very questionable handling of the Babacar Sarr cases while at Molde.
     
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  10. Robertson

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    A lot of the head coach problems have been down to the poor summer recruitment. Speakman must have thought it was good if Mowbray was, to him, complaining without valid reasons. Then it spiralled to Beale and Dodds from there. It's so frustrating that the summer signings weren't what we needed to give the coaches a chance.
     
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  11. rooch 3

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    I would prefer to get rid of the fans who got him the sack to be honest.
     
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  12. Prehab26

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    You have our captain calling the main man doddsy ffs. That's the lack of standards right there.
     
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  13. Grizzled Wanderer

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    He got himself the sack by not being able to win games and not being able to stop making his mouth go.

    Exactly as some supporters predicted, having listened to what Rangers supporters thought of him.
     
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  15. Scootsie

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    My thoughts exactly. I think coaches are often seen as one of the lads and command less respect when they take charge.

    Isn’t his fault either, he should never have been given the job for this long.
     
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  16. Grizzled Wanderer

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    Sitting down and shutting up has always worked in the past.

    Except for all the times that it hasn't.

    Which is every time.
     
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    It really is embarrassing <laugh> Hopefully we sign a proper captain in the summer anyway. Get a proper centre half in and bench O’Nien.
     
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  18. FellTop

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    I like the work John Mousinho has done at Portsmouth. Some turnaround he has achieved with that club. He is one to watch, and would not be averse to him if the club are keen on a young coach.

    Another is Michael Skubala who has come out of Leeds and gone into Lincoln and had a very bright start. Heard some very good things about him.
     
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    Lincoln have been on an unbelievable run! Decent chance of winning the play-offs if they sneak in.
     
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  20. The Norton Cat

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    Skubala is a very interesting one. I think his breadth of experience (even if it is mostly under the radar) would be a real asset. I'd like to see us give someone like him a chance. My fear would be that his profile, or lack thereof, would count against him.
     
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