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Sour Patch said:
I am so confused by what your point is? What has playing at a certain level got to do with their ability to coach or scout?

Also, as someone who works in football in data and scouting who hasn't played an organised game of football since I was 16 does that invalidate my input at my club? Am I just a data geek?
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I’m saying data is helpful, essential maybe, but data alone can’t be the judge. AI can’t select the starting eleven. Well it can but it shouldn’t. There’s a limit to it then it should be counterbalanced with experience.
To be clear, I said either having played at that level or coached competitive football at that level. I don’t think a coach alone should select a player either, but if it’s your knackers /livelihood on the line and you get no alternative option you should have input.
 
Pure River Slut said:
I’m saying data is helpful, essential maybe, but data alone can’t be the judge. AI can’t select the starting eleven. Well it can but it shouldn’t. There’s a limit to it then it should be counterbalanced with experience.
To be clear, I said either having played at that level or coached competitive football at that level. I don’t think a coach alone should select a player either, but if it’s your knackers /livelihood on the line and you get no alternative option you should have input.
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Data shouldn't be used on its own. And as far as I'm aware, its not. The scouting courses that I've been on make it clear that data cannot replace 'traditional' scouting. But it is a very useful tool to use as part of a range of information gathering methods.
 
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Mackem 10.1 said:
Is he any good would be my question, a lot of hype about him but his managerial record doesn't stand out
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Probably the highest touted managerial prospect in Europe right now and if not, only 2nd to that Italian fella we were linked with in the summer.

Maradona had to prove it at one point.
 
The Norton Cat said:
Data shouldn't be used on its own. And as far as I'm aware, its not. The scouting courses that I've been on make it clear that data cannot replace 'traditional' scouting. But it is a very useful tool to use as part of a range of information gathering methods.
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I am an old so and so in football coaching terms. In my fifties, and I am more and more sidelined each year. This is my last season doing anything dedicated. Those that turn to me in this region are slowly retiring and I am being replaced by football scholars who arent making it as a player. All good, they are the future. In my 20 years since I stopped playing coaching has changed massively. Indeed football 'behind the scenes' has changed massively. Most of it for the better. Data certainly has been a boost.

The best development in coaching has been the FA DNA coaching model. The improvement in standards at grassroots has been immense so when I take lads into academy football thet have the fundamentals locked in.

My one gripe, and it is a personal observation only, is that there can be silos in clubs. If you dont join data, to medical, to recruitment, to coaching, to leadership it can worth less than the sum of its parts. I am biased but the most important role is probably the head coach. Arguably the head coach is the only person able to create a cohesive squad. Data should inform that, as should physiology and character, but at the end of the day coaches have to create the 18 day squad that will deliver together. They need to have a clear voice in that process, not the loudest, but a clear voice. One of my challenges recently has been to create a cohesive unit when the ingredients arent quite right. It is not easy. I think Mowbray and Beale have both found that this year.

15 years ago I could take 14 or 15 year olds into academy football based on my recommendation alone. They would be given 6 weeks. Not now. This is probably an improvement too. But I think back to days when scouts would wander the touch lines and 'see' a player. The nowhere men is a brilliant book. I was playing mens Saturday football when I was 15 and a scout happened to be stood next to my Dad and he asked if I knew who he was. Next week I am at Darlington and Tow Law and so it started. The pro game wasnt much different. The scout is such a wonderfully important role in a club, but only if there talent is valued. Talent can be seen a mile off. Data backs that up. Not too sure clubs these days will take a recommendation for a player that hasnt already met data metrics seriously. That would be a potential flaw.

Anyway, sorry for my rambling. Back to my Rioja.
 
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Bob the Mackem said:
Eric would change our whole culture of football, from U16s to 1st team.
I've been over for 5 days after my mam died, its amazing the respect he gets from players staff down to the groundsman.
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Love it mate. Do you think he could work with Speakman, being Eric is an ex tech director. For me we still need some football side experience somewhere in this mix of ours. I would be delighted to see him back personally.
 
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Bob the Mackem said:
Speakman he would not, I'm afraid, but he knows KLD very well, Eric was kld's dad's 1st sponsored player with adidas in Marseille.
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Love that. Roy was a breath of fresh air when he landed here. Pure speculation but I wonder if Speakman fails his end of year assessment here and we bring in Eric as tech director and a young lad as coach.
 
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