New Head Coach

[The Norton Cat]

I liked Will Still before Beale. I think I still like him.

I dont feel like the fans are going to go for it though and we have some loud fans nowadays.

Will you still like Will Still if he doesn't become our manager?

Sorry.

I agree about the fan thing. I can't help but think that he'd be more accepted than Beale, simply on the basis of the positive news stories about him. He'd be a gamble, I think, but one that should be taken if we get the chance.

 

[alcoauth]

Nature of the beast when those playing in unnatural positions are doing so poorly and we’re getting beat every other week.

Literally the opposite has been observed to be true many times in the past.

It goes like this, natural right back is shifted to left back, plays out of his skin but is considered non natural by fanbase, after relentless pressure club bring in sub par player natural to the position.

 

[Nacho]

Will you still like Will Still if he doesn't become our manager?

Sorry.

I agree about the fan thing. I can't help but think that he'd be more accepted than Beale, simply on the basis of the positive news stories about him. He'd be a gamble, I think, but one that should be taken if we get the chance.

I think the main problem with Beale was that he wasn't Still so I'd expect him to be very well received. Don't know if it's just because Still appeared to be our number one choice or if there's anything more substantial to it.

 

[Red n white Tractor]

Will Will Still still be on a good wage. If Will Still's wages are increased will Will Still's wages still be reflected in Will Still's will?

 

[Billy Batts]

What is this obsession fans have with Will Still?
Before sacking TM I’d never heard of Still, he dosent seem to have an outstanding background of success so what makes him any better than Beale?
Don’t follow managers of foreign clubs so could someone enlighten me please .

This. Sooner have someone like Cooper tbh.

 

[Blyth_bucaneer]

Will Still not happy about constraints, there's probably more here. Never ever heard of him until Mowbray got pedalled, dunno why people think he'll be a Messiah here, will be absolutely slaughtered over the road after one defeat, as per normal jogging.

 

[Smug in Boots]

He's the youngest head coach in the big European leagues. He's 31 and was an analyst at Lierse. He got their manager's job after being made caretaker at 24 and a similar thing happened at Beerschott. Then he got the Reims job. And, to be fair to him, he's got them going well. 11th last season and I think they're about 8th now. Reims are historically a massive club but they've been in the doldrums for years. Probably since the 1950s. Reims players made up most of the France team at the 1958 World Cup.

There were a lot of news stories about a him a little while back because of his age and because he didn't have his UEFA Pro Licence so Reims were paying a fine every game.

He talks well about the game and he probably has got something about him. He's no more or less of a gamble than Beale, in my opinion. I think a lot of people have been seduced by the fact that he's relatively high profile after all the news stories. It probably would be a bit of a PR coup for the club to get him. Hopefully, though, the club's analysis will be sufficiently in depth that they won't be swayed by the noise around him and, if he is our next manager, he's appointed for the right reasons.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Still

Spot on mate, everyone's a gamble.

You could list a dozen managers, off the top of your head, who've failed at one club but a success at the next or vice versa.

Fans can blame the club because Neil and Mowbray had a moan, when they went, but the club provided enough for a promotion and, without so many key injuries, possibly a second. The managers will claim, of course, that it was their management skills that made a silk purse out of the pig's ear they were handed.

There'll be those who want Still, get him then blame the club if he fails ...

... despite any of his claims that he can do the job with the tools he has.

It's an easy game to play.

Neil walked out blaming lack of control, went to his dream job at Stoke with total control and took them to their lowest position in modern times. I can't remember who he blamed tbh, players I'd imagine for failing to see his vision

 

[alcoauth]

Appointing Will Still would be us punching above our weigh for sure, I think because of the owners profile, the way in which we recruit coupled with having a nice stadium and big crowds is appealing for a lot of managers who would usually only consider top tier jobs, I've no doubt from reading those comments him coming up here and having a look wet the appetite. This is a great club when viewed objectively and without the basket case element being considered. All of that said, I'm fully behind Mike Dodds for however long it lasts and hopefully he can win us some games nd get us closer to a top-6 spot.

 

[Brainy Dose]

Will you still like Will Still if he doesn't become our manager?

Sorry.

I agree about the fan thing. I can't help but think that he'd be more accepted than Beale, simply on the basis of the positive news stories about him. He'd be a gamble, I think, but one that should be taken if we get the chance.

I think it would be an exciting,different kind of appointment..... as you say,a gamble,but maybe one worth taking.
Interesting where it might leave Dodds and Proctor.
As long as he doesn't have a mole on his cheek he would probably escape abuse until a couple of poor performances....then he'd be fair game for our self-entitled intelligentsia.
Too young,no Championship experience,paid a release clause we could have used for a striker,etc.etc.

 

[Wayne the Punk]

I think it would be an exciting,different kind of appointment..... as you say,a gamble,but maybe one worth taking.
Interesting where it might leave Dodds and Proctor.
As long as he doesn't have a mole on his cheek he would probably escape abuse until a couple of poor performances....then he'd be fair game for our self-entitled intelligentsia.
Too young,no Championship experience,paid a release clause we could have used for a striker,etc.etc.

He is ginger though

 

[SAFC Wilks]

Will Still not happy about constraints, there's probably more here. Never ever heard of him until Mowbray got pedalled, dunno why people think he'll be a Messiah here, will be absolutely slaughtered over the road after one defeat, as per normal jogging.

Over the road will complain about Klopp or Pep if they lost a game as our head coach, not really an accurate reflection of the normal Sunderland fan like.

 

[Brainy Dose]

He is ginger though

 

[alcoauth]

He is ginger though

We'll resign Watmore and bring Jody Craddock into the coaching staff.

 

[safcfansofaraway]

After the last 3 head coach appointments, the one thing we can say is an absolute fact is that some of our fan base will STILL criticise the new incumbent, before arrival and during their tenancy.
The real issue these days is that everyone can have a voice that can be heard because of social media. In the past, a few groans in the pub or a few expletives from the terraces wouldn't be picked up and analysed in depth by pseudo journalists as they are now.
Hopefully, whoever picks up the poisoned chalice, has a thick skin, and preferably no interest in social media.
Whoever it is has my full support whilst at the club! HTL

 

[RTB]

Thank goodness we didn't go for Cloughie back in the day when he failed at Leeds

Yeah 44 days
Even less than Beale

 

[Smug in Boots]

After the last 3 head coach appointments, the one thing we can say is an absolute fact is that some of our fan base will STILL criticise the new incumbent, before arrival and during their tenancy.
The real issue these days is that everyone can have a voice that can be heard because of social media. In the past, a few groans in the pub or a few expletives from the terraces wouldn't be picked up and analysed in depth by pseudo journalists as they are now.
Hopefully, whoever picks up the poisoned chalice, has a thick skin, and preferably no interest in social media.
Whoever it is has my full support whilst at the club! HTL

Only around a dozen clubs, out of the 92, will have any success each season ...

... so you're on pretty safe ground predicting a manager won't succeed and will be sacked sooner or later.

 

[young2077]

Whoever we appoint I hope it’s NOT someone who has “failed” at his previous club(s)!!

They WILL fail again!!

Bart

That's a very narrow list isn't it and probably one we arent likley to attract many from? These days most managers end up sacked, can say most managers in football have failed at their last job!

 

[master-simpson]

Thank goodness we didn't go for Cloughie back in the day when he failed at Leeds

Correct

Bart

 

[Nig]

Thank goodness we didn't go for Cloughie back in the day when he failed at Leeds

That's the thing,
Mowbray gone after losing spell of what,,, five games ?
Beale, only 12 games , 4 wins, 4 losses. ?
How many managers have done worse but gone on to do really well ?

Ok it did seem to be going downhill under Beale, and he wasn't a popular choice from the start but you never know in football.


Cooper for me.
Although being Welsh and no Tom cruise he'll be on a hiding to nothing from the start from some dafties.

 

[Jarca]

That's the thing,
Mowbray gone after losing spell of what,,, five games ?
Beale, only 12 games , 4 wins, 4 losses. ?
How many managers have done worse but gone on to do really well ?

Ok it did seem to be going downhill under Beale, and he wasn't a popular choice from the start but you never know in football.


Cooper for me.
Although being Welsh and no Tom cruise he'll be on a hiding to nothing from the start from some dafties.

Cooper would be my choice also mate. We've really got to nail our business this summer.