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Winter transfer window

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by mick65, Nov 7, 2023.

  1. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    Wharton is a good player mind and he’s only 19, I think the age plays a big part in the fee. He’s 4 years younger than Clarke/Neil that’s a lot of time to improve. It’s hard to base it off other player sales because there’s players much better who’ve gone for less too. Hopefully the owners stubborn and plays the game so we get the absolute most we can!
     
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  2. Pure River Slut

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    I think the league this season is much harder. 8th this season may be the equivalent of last season. Ipswich are a surprise the others are expected to be up there. It would have needed a big error for either of those relegated sides to do badly. They have lose players but also invested their riches. Coventry also had the benefit of significant player sales. I don’t think we will finish 6th. If we had fully replaced Stewart maybe but as we can see striker are hard to come by and it’s a sellers market so they cost money. Better not to waste it till we’ve got who we want at the right price or it costs who we want elsewhere. We have to make sure those we’ve invested in come good and we have a fresh new injection that reach quality of those that will leave over time but with less gaps and weaknesses because we invested more.
     
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  3. Robertson

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    I’m all for being optimistic but that’s a bit too far, even for me!
     
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  4. TopCat.

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    Back then we had owners who said the Manager gets whatever he wants...

    I remember us signing David Healy because Waghorn had an injury that was keeping him out for a month :emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    My worry with Clarke is that he's reached his peak and his standards might drop ...

    ... if he wants a move, that doesn't materialise, would we end up with a disillusioned player who's value drops.
     
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  6. TopCat.

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    Everything we've heard so far is how happy he is at the club. Now, that may change in the summer when PL clubs come in and we are facing a 3rd season in the 2nd tier but I think there is a general acceptance that he'll leave in the close season.
     
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  7. Nacho

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    Aren't they? Neil and Ekwah both currently play that role. If O'Nien stepped into midfield that position would be perfect for him. Matete is a defensive minded CM.
     
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  8. TopCat.

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    Ekwah is absolutely NOT a defensive midfielder. He has no awareness of danger. Just look at the 2nd goal in the cup game.
    Neil can play that role, but he's far better and more effective further forward.
    We've seen enough of O'Nien in midfield to know he's not a midfielder. The fact he's played there once in the last 2 seasons says it all
    Matete is more a player who likes to carry the ball. Box to box rather than CDM

    Plenty of revisionism going on here today saying we don't need a CDM when even the club have said we do
     
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  9. Brainy Dose

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    :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  10. Brainy Dose

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    <laugh>
     
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  11. Late goal Scorer

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    Didn’t do us much good really though and arguably started the spiral to being unsustainable and third tier football.
     
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  12. TopCat.

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    True
     
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  13. Nacho

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    Just because you don't rate them there doesn't mean they don't exist. I'd rather see us develop our own players there especially Neil, I don't see a new CM getting a lot of game time.

    Btw O'Nien's not been playing in CM because he's been our first choice CB it's not like he's been dropped.
     
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  14. TopCat.

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  15. Brainy Dose

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    He may have reached his peak at the minute,but it's how he can reach a higher level as and when he's playing with better players around him. That dream should keep his standards high.
     
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  16. TopCat.

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    So by your own interpretation, that rules O9 out as a midfield option? Good to clear that up
     
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  17. TopCat.

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    It's not me who picks the team, but 4 head coaches now have failed to pick Matete. Maybe you know something everyone else doesn't?
     
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  18. TopCat.

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    Going to be fun on here today where the SAFC apologists make a case for Nathan Bishop being good enough to play up front, whilst the anti-Speakman mob plan to rush him at the next home game for refusing to sign Amad

    :emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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  19. Scout73

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    We def need another CM, ideally they would be a cdm as thatll free up our current cms to play in their preferred roles

    However, if no cdm's that we want are available id be happy with another CM (potentially someone like styles who knows the league, maybe lost his way a little but has the potential) and then we use neil as 1st choice cdm n ekwah as back up cdm (ekwah would start but in box to box role). I think if we play a 3 man midfield (433) then i think someone like rigg will continue to get mins but we def need anotuer body in there as we'll be in trouble if Neil misses any games
     
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  20. Nacho

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    Not at all I think he'd do well there. I don't see why someone being played in one position means there's no way they can play another.
     
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