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Transfer Rumours January Transfer Thread

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  1. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    I've seen every game this season home and away on Tiger+, being overseas. From what I have seen bar Leicester and Ipswich and how Southampton there isn't a team we should be afraid of. With the new additions, I think it would be therefore a disappointment if we fell below 8th, IMO.
     
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  2. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    A good pieces by Baz Cooper on FFP.

    Hull City's FFP position examined as January transfer window recruitment drive continues

    Championship clubs must work within strict financial constraints or risk severe penalties


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    Tan Kesler, Acun Ilicali and Liam Rosenior have been busy in the transfer market throughout January (Image: Muhammed Enes Yildirim/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images)
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    Like any Championship club, Hull City face a daily battle to remain within the confines of Financial Fair Play (FFP) and ensure they don't breach the EFL's strict profit and sustainability rules.

    An aggressive transfer policy since Acun Ilicali took charge in January 2022 has seen a host of players come and go from the MKM Stadium, with no shortage of money spent on players like Allahyar Sayyadmanesh, Dogukan Sinik, Ozan Tufan and Jaden Philogene, coupled with some generous salaries.

    So far in January, City have spent around £1.5m on goalkeeper Ivor Pandur from Fortuna Sittard while bringing in Billy Sharp on a free transfer and Fabio Carvalho on loan plus Ryan Giles from Luton in a loan-to-buy deal.

    They also remain hopeful of concluding the £4m signing of Abdulkadir Omur with the 24-year-old in East Yorkshire ready to complete his move and the club wait to announce Noah Ohio's temporary move from Standard Liege - that deal is a straight loan with no option to buy.

    READ MORE: Ambitious Hull City owner Acun Ilicali facing 'critical' end to transfer window

    The Tigers are also primed to recruit a winger before Thursday's 11pm deadline, with Acun Ilicali keen to bolster Liam Rosenior's ranks for the second half of the campaign and give his manager the best chance of winning promotion.

    One question that is not too far from the lips of City fans surrounds FFP, and how the club are managing their budgets to ensure they don't fall foul of the strict financial restrictions placed on them and every other Championship club, and the simple answer is, they're right on the edge.

    Acun Ilicali continues to pump in the maximum amount of money he's allowed to which takes City right onto the cusp of the £13m per season permitted losses, but significant sponsorship deals with the likes of McVities and Corendon Airlines have helped ease the financial pressure, as has the increased attendances at the MKM Stadium and various other increases in revenue.

    Naturally, the higher the attendances and the more income the club can generate off the pitch will go towards helping create a greater budget for Rosenior, giving them more wriggle room in the market.

    Ilicali knows that player trading is a fundamental part of City's business plan, and selling Allahyar Sayyadmanesh will help bring in valuable finance and that is something the club must consider moving forward in the summer. Snaring Jaden Philogene for £5m was a terrific piece of business and ensures they have a saleable asset that will be worth triple that if not more, while Abdulkadir would be a player, like Philogene, with a healthy sell-on value, should the need arise in the future.

    City, as they have done ever since Ilicali took control of the club two years ago, continue to work closely with the EFL to ensure they remain on the right side of the FFP limits, with each and every new arrival run past the authority before being signed off and registered.

    Getting players out is crucial for City to remain within FFP, and the decision to sell Allahyar instead of loaning him has been driven by the need to generate income. While players have and will leave on loan, there remains a significant financial contribution still hanging around the club's neck that will see a significant amount of squad trimming in the summer.
    https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/hull-city-ffp-position-examined-9064981
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

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    Just to show how far the quality of signings has improved over the recent past, four years ago today, we signed Marcus Maddison.
     
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    Precisely
    If we hadn’t brought anyone in, chances are we would miss the play offs.
    Bringing a few loans in means we have a legitimate chance of squeezing into the play offs, but if we don’t…hey ho. We’ll have seen Carvalho in a City shirt, and we’ll be likely improving the team for next year by using an option to sign or two.
    Great window, without breaking the bank long term IMHO
     
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  5. Canninho

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    I wonder how his career has panned out since...
     
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    "Better than 14th" is a terrible ambition. The backing LR has received is massively short term, I imagine we're paying a pretty penny for the players we have in on loan which won't be of any benefit next season unless it results in promotion.

    Acun hasn't got to where he is today by spunking money up the wall, he'll want a return and I imagine questions will get asked if we're not in or around the playoffs come the final whistle of the season. I don't think that will result in LR being shown the door unless we catastrophically collapse.
     
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  7. Tigerite

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    I would say as well that we are now loaning better players from bigger clubs as they can clearly see that we are doing a great job in developing them, that wasn't the case in the summer of 2022 so we got a load of cast-offs and youth players.
     
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    It's probably a dig at me. The 'comfort of the armchair' dig is hilarious because the fat **** barely goes to games himself whereas I have a membership.
     
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  9. 1MoreAgain

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    I was Looking at the table and fixtures to the end of the season and if this team with the new additions does gel it is quite possible we could close the gap significantly on the teams above us even though the gap atm is 12-17 points even 4 losses for say ipswich puts us right on them if we string a few decent results on the spin so i would say not getting in to the top 6 this season would be a disapointment for us.
     
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    Good to hear we’ve signed some new players. Sounds like the big Turk fancies a proper pop at the top six and why not. Whether or not it will improve our chances of actually going to Wembley remains to be seen however. Certainly won’t do any harm you’d like to think. On paper our goalkeeping situation has been sorted once and for all now and our wingbacks are now stronger certainly from an attacking point of view it seems. Big question now is how long will it take for these new players to settle into our system and assuming they all do how much stronger will we be as a team ? Lots of unanswered questions still but with plenty of games left it’s all to play for now you’d of thought.

    UTT.
     
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    The next 4 games are all winnable. If we got 12 points from them, that would be huge.
     
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    It would be huge you are right considering the teams above and around us are now starting to play each other so teams are going to be dropping points , i can see both ipswich and TWS hitting a roadblock for a few games so there is every chance to gain ground on other clubs and pull away from a few at the same time.

    We just have to hope the new additions hit the ground running for us.
     
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    Not much is said about the fact WBA are doing barely any business. Think they'll drop.
     
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    If Noah can step up and cover the loss off Delap and Omur produces some of the talent that made him such a sought after player and giles with his assists anything is possible, then we only have to hope pandur can play with his feet :emoticon-0100-smile.
     
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    They do always seem to be there abouts and do have some quality players i think we will finish above them but i also think they will be there to.
     
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    Mike and I chatted through the transfers, their implications - and funnily enough he brought up the loan v permanent debate not me!

     
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    Good piece. It offers some reassurance to this who think he is just ignoring FFP, that they ‘continue to work closely with the EFL to ensure they remain on the right side of the FFP limits, with each and every new arrival run past the authority before being signed off and registered.
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    wonder if that’s why a lot of incomings seem to take an age to get over the line.?
     
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    I could see it being us and Cov.
     
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    I don't think Cov will finish top 6 i think quite a few teams will hold them to draws similar to last nights result and that could be their undoing.
     
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    If they announce Omur today i really think Acun is going to pull something out of his bag of tricks on the final day tomorrow that will blow our socks off again, he really does love the headlines :emoticon-0102-bigsm.
     
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