Think wires are crossed. I'm advocating the loan system. I'd expect first team experience before perhaps being ready for our first team to be a positive. Either way I'm not sure you can generalise either way. A lot of it is down to the individual player on a case by case basis.
Wires are crossed because I responded to someone else and you replied to me seemingly disagreeing with me with a point adjacent to the one I was making. My point was in the case of players like KLP who didn't do much out on loan and developed well in our system how can the poster I was responding to claim that's an issue with our player development.
The obvious example of something similar would be Harry Kane. At Delaps sort of age he was doing virtually nothing for Millwall and Leicester on loan. Went back to spurs and exploded. But then would he have without that loan experience?
I thought it was that a loan isn't necessarily a career ending abyss, which was a parallel point to my own. But I do see the duality of his argument, now you've drawn my attention to it.
What if it came down to 2.5m for Azaz, or 6m for Delap, but perhaps you have to be smart in other areas of recruitment to do it? Hypothetically speaking, obviously.
There's so much expectation but on young players as fans love the next big thing. When you look at our squad, the likes of Macca, Coyle, Alfie, Twine & Connolly were 23/24/25 before they played consistently (well) in the Championship, yet there's this desire to write young players off so quickly. I've even seen Furlong considered a flop which to me is nonsense when he's 6 months into a long-term deal and he was always meant to be one for the future.
No idea. I took you off ignore as we'd had some positive exchanges recently, but do you need to respond to every post as if you want to start a lengthy debate?
Dunno. It's a message board. And it's the transfer window. You posted a hypothetical question, I thought I'd posit an equally hypothetical one. Just putting it out there, frankly. But I doubt you'd answer what you'd do. Because you can't. None of us can. Far from trying to have a dig.
You'd know. Just like John Anderson won multiple players of the season in a single season, eh? Perhaps you're thinking of Greg Strong
You get players with skill but lack work ethic - You generally get inconsistency. You get players with limited skill but good work ethic. You generally get consistency. You get players with both Skill and work ethic - You generally get stardom. As you say, there are many reasons why players succeed or not, the above are just 3 and a generalisation, but there are many other reason in-between.
Injuries, bad decisions, just plain good or bad luck to get a break etc are all factors. But when they do get a break, then they still have to take it. Being a professional footballer is ultimately about justifying a professional wage, first and foremost. They can only be nursed and subsidised to a certain degree before they have to begin to earn it. Like in any walk of life.
A number 8, would be a good option but it does start to mean we're going to have to do something to resolve the number of loanees we have. Vinagre going back, a new LB in permanently, Twine or Delap joining permanently seems the way to go.
