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  1. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Has this Beale bloke actually been confirmed or not. Could this be more b*llocks and deliberately leaking info whilst the hunt goes on for a new manager.
     
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  2. Chunksafc

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    I liked TM's where he went off on random tangents then dropped in some really clever advice.for the player he was waffling about.

    You could always see him change and get excited when talking about the younger players and their potential
     
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  3. COYCS

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  4. Pure River Slut

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    Talking of Neil’s. Alex was dreadful at Stoke but did exceptionally well here under our set up.
     
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  5. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    It's the fluttering eye lashes that do it for me :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  6. Ozzymac

    Ozzymac Well-Known Member

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    Glass half full time...

    All reports say that Beale is a good coach and we know that Dodds is already. Hypotheticaly if Beale was to fail then Doods could potentially step up and Beale move into the coaching/player development role.

    Possibly a plan B from the club
     
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  7. John 11:35

    John 11:35 Well-Known Member

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    I came to this article with low expectations but it’s a really good read. I hate the ads on that website so grabbed some highlights

    “The starting point is to understand why Mowbray left, and what it meant for what followed. Though Mowbray’s departure came at the end of a frustrating week of results, performances were not necessarily the primary reason for his sacking. Sunderland are a data and ‘evidence led’ operation and by just about any performance metric, Mowbray’s side were one of the best in the division. Mowbray left because relationships behind the scenes had broken down to the point where his position was deemed untenable by the club’s ownership, and even he himself was beginning to feel the same way towards the end.”

    “Results were not mentioned once in the statement confirming his departure, with Kyril Louis-Dreyfus (who has been the primary driver of these recent significant changes) instead speaking of a ‘relentless demand for a high performance culture’. There had developed a fundamental disconnect between how he wanted the club to operate and as such, rifts were widening. After the week in which that seemed to visibly spill over, Louis-Dreyfus acted.”

    “So when Mowbray departed, there was no successor lined up. Instead the club began its recruitment process, sounding out a large number of candidates who they had identified as potential options. Some of those were in work, some of them weren’t.”

    “Reims’ head coach Will Still was the name most often mentioned with the vacancy and on paper, he appeared a perfect fit. Almost from the off, however, sources in the game indicated that the deal would be immensely difficult to do. His contractual status at Reims was complex and there was no easy way of extracting him, even if he ultimately had decided the challenge was the right one. That, too, was never quite clear.”

    “So why Beale? Primarily because he is seen to be an outstanding coach, and this was why he was part of the interview process. Louis-Dreyfus and the hierarchy would argue that for what they were looking for and to change, he ticked many of the boxes. It was his training-ground work and player development that first brought him to the attention of Steven Gerrard, with Beale a key part of his success at Rangers and then initially at Aston Villa. Beale also has a track record in youth development from his time rising through the ranks at Liverpool, which is very obviously a pre-requisite for the job on Wearside in its current guise.”

    “Though Beale’s own spell as Rangers manager was ultimately unsuccessful, he was operating in a very different structure and Sunderland believe that this role will allow him to focus on what he does best, coaching and tactical detail. If, as many onlookers north of the border believe, recruitment was a major issue then on Wearside that will clearly not be the case.”

    “Sunderland’s hierarchy also believe, and this is clearly crucial when you reflect on Louis-Dreyfus’ comments surrounding Mowbray’s departure, that he will bring quality to the Academy of Light operation as a result of his spells at Chelsea and Liverpool. He also started very brightly at QPR with an attacking playing style that got the best out of the squad’s most technical players, which should raise hope that this could be a neat transition. That early work at QPR, and his reputation in the game as one of best coaches around, almost brought him to the Premier League and Wolves. That, it should be said, wasn’t too far off only a year ago.”

    “There will have been a temptation to hand Mike Dodds a longer spell at the helm given the regard in which he is held behind the scenes and the impact he has had in the last two games, but ultimately it was felt that this time was probably too soon and on Thursday, he himself hinted that he felt that was probably the case. Part of the reason why Sunderland have moved for Beale is that he will integrate into the current coaching set up, which the club rate very highly and believe has been a key part of the success of the last two years. Dodds will have an integral role moving forward, and may well emerge as a strong contender for the main role somewhere down the line. His role at the heart of the new management team should again, in theory, help the team roll forward without undue disruption.”
     
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  8. Mackem74

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  9. Montysoptician

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    No Ozzy, Season Cards don’t include cup games just league ones.
    I can’t remember the last time I had my seat for a cup match, only for the playoffs.
    Historically we don’t sell cup games well, so a few years ago they started to sell by sections of the ground on open sale, only moving to the next section when the previous one sells out.
    This is the first time I can remember season card holders having the facility to secure their seats early for a cup match.
     
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  10. Ozzymac

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    Even then the club statement says "secure your seat". That could simply mean get in quick as we anticipate that they will sell out
     
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  11. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Nice 1. Good read.
     
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  12. Smug in Boots

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    It's irrelevant mate, as I thought he was exonerated ... just checked.
     
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  13. Roppa

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    Hartlepool I think m8, but I may be wrong
     
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  14. Pure River Slut

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    Good article
     
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  16. Peterleeyacker

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    Was Murty at Rangers with Beale? We always seem to employ people with links already at the club.
    I'll hold judgement on any new manager as I didn't want Alex Neil or Tony Mowbray. So as it stands I Know absolutely **** all on football management and everything our board has done football wise has moved the club forward. There's no way they'd hire anyone if they thought it wouldn't work.
     
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  17. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    I can't recall that Roppa, it's 20 year ago and I'm an old codger. I can only remember having the facility to secure my own seat in playoff games. I could be a mile wrong though :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  18. Nozs’ Hat

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    Not seen any confirmation yet. Going to be tricky for anyone coming in of Dodds gets a third win today though.
     
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  19. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    absolutely. It’s a pretty much unheard of situation for a new manager to come in off the back of 3 wins in a row.
    So much pressure to hit ground running.

    that pressure would have been the same on any of the candidates mind
     
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  20. Roppa

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    Probably right Monty I’ve got to the stage I’ve forgotten what I’ve walked into the bathroom for so you’re probably right, I remember I had a season ticket up in the premier concourse, and I watched it from the south stand with the bairn so you could well be right, I just have a recollection that you could but it was cheaper down with the proletariat:)
     
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