1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

New Head Coach

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by FellTop, Nov 26, 2023.

  1. David Moyes' Stupid Face

    David Moyes' Stupid Face Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    3,427
    Likes Received:
    4,182
    I feel like I'm missing something with this Will Still fella, why is there such a clamour for him? I know he started his career at Reims very well but seems to have done absolutely nothing special ever since? He's taken them from midtable to... midtable? Why are folk talking as if he'd be some massive coup? :huh:

    I think I'd rather have Hellberg, his career has at least been on an upwards trajectory throughout. Still's seems to have stalled after a couple of good months?
     
    #1281
    Nonsense Potter likes this.
  2. ROKER PARK

    ROKER PARK Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2017
    Messages:
    1,271
    Likes Received:
    1,428
    Don't we have some compo from Stoke to play with?
     
    #1282
  3. BRMC

    BRMC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2020
    Messages:
    1,590
    Likes Received:
    2,698
    But he hasn't just improved Reims

     
    #1283
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2023
    Mackem-Tiz and MKmackem like this.
  4. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2019
    Messages:
    14,803
    Likes Received:
    33,570
    Switched off after the opening sentence. Not for me.

    I'll leave it for KLD to decide.
     
    #1284
  5. Wardley Makem

    Wardley Makem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2020
    Messages:
    784
    Likes Received:
    2,104
    Shouldn't really surprise anyone. F
    Dodds came in as a young coach, learned from a few managers, developed and now possibly ready for the big role.

    We're just developing staff as well as players.

    Look at arteta, Leicester fella. Loads of coaches starting to make their way through as they're embracing all of the modern coaching methods.

    It ensures you don't just blow all your progress up in smoke of your get the wrong fit.

    We know the players like him, we know he's a good coach, we've seen the players react well. Makes a lot of sense really
     
    #1285
    Vaux92 and MACKEMLAD1973 like this.
  6. The Redbaron

    The Redbaron Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2019
    Messages:
    1,548
    Likes Received:
    2,605
    Every appointment, every, is a massive gamble by those making the decisions on recruitment. Its no different whether that be the Manager, players, Coaches or CEO's right down to the Stadium announcer.. Yes, track records are important but again, it does not mean to say that Dodd's would be effective in overall control of first team affairs. He is not for me though.
     
    #1286
    rowley likes this.
  7. Wardley Makem

    Wardley Makem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2020
    Messages:
    784
    Likes Received:
    2,104
    Genuinely question, based on what?

    I don't think we as fans have any idea about coaches like dodds or the others we've been linked to.

    Historically yes, they all had track records and quite clear identities. This lot, who knows!

    Dodds has brought through the best player in the world right now. Whilst you certainly don't put too much on that alone, it's also quite something to bare in mind.
     
    #1287
  8. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    7,224
    Likes Received:
    20,866
    As i've said ...i've nothing against Dodds, but I just think he shouldn't get the job...way too early imho.

    Also, if he was seriously in the running why go through interviews, give him a few games, see what happens....or has his stock risen after the WBA game. If thats the case its a worrying approach to recruitment
     
    #1288
    John 11:35 and Blond Bombshell like this.
  9. RTB

    RTB Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    23,977
    Likes Received:
    50,736
    If he's any good he will be leaving us as soon as West Ham get rid of Moyes <laugh><laugh>
    That is his dream job.
     
    #1289
  10. The Exile II

    The Exile II Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2020
    Messages:
    4,761
    Likes Received:
    6,853
    With Dodds I suspect it's a case of what his value is to us as a coach right now and potential manager in a few years time versus the risk of putting him in before he's ready.
     
    #1290

  11. rowley

    rowley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2019
    Messages:
    3,682
    Likes Received:
    10,348
    There is more to being a manager or head coach than just coaching though. That's the thing.

    Whatever the title, that bloke will coach the side. Then he has to deal with the consequences of having 25 or so young men, all wanting to play, and some possibly having various other off field issues. He is the first to hear and deal with this stuff. Then endless press. Etc

    It's not for everyone, and it's more than being a coach. Many of the best managers did little coaching.
     
    #1291
  12. Mackem-Tiz

    Mackem-Tiz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    3,223
    Likes Received:
    3,511
    Thanks for sharing that mate. Really interesting.
     
    #1292
    BRMC likes this.
  13. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2019
    Messages:
    6,902
    Likes Received:
    12,621
    Dodds may do well so I won’t judge him until we see how he does if that’s the way we end up going, but I do think it tells us that what we pay and how we run things isn’t ticking the boxes of our target coaches or we wouldn’t have had interviews and failed.
     
    #1293
    Fly Me To The Moon likes this.
  14. Fly Me To The Moon

    Fly Me To The Moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2021
    Messages:
    1,153
    Likes Received:
    1,726
    Exactly. If dodds gets it after 7/10 days it just shows that they couldn't get their targets. We know that their have been interviews taking place.
     
    #1294
  15. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    4,745
    Likes Received:
    6,597
    ya don’t really! You know absolutely nothing about what’s going on just like everyone else
     
    #1295
  16. Fly Me To The Moon

    Fly Me To The Moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2021
    Messages:
    1,153
    Likes Received:
    1,726
    which is unusual in itself. usually something leaks. Very weird. I think its gonna go to dodds until the summer.
     
    #1296
  17. Fly Me To The Moon

    Fly Me To The Moon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2021
    Messages:
    1,153
    Likes Received:
    1,726
    We do know that they've been interviewing by the way. Dodds said exactly that.
     
    #1297
    butcher58 and Pure River Slut like this.
  18. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    4,745
    Likes Received:
    6,597
    he also said he’s not spoken to speak man or kld so how’s he getting the job like you constantly keep saying?
     
    #1298
    C Montgomery Burns likes this.
  19. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2019
    Messages:
    6,902
    Likes Received:
    12,621
    Dodds did say they were off interviewing people like. The info might not be complete we know that but there were more saying they’d heard about Dodds yesterday than anyone else so it’s fair that we consider it possible.
     
    #1299
  20. smithy in nl

    smithy in nl Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    4,745
    Likes Received:
    6,597
    surely they will have a word with him then? Or they just just going to say oh btw your gaffa now!
    It’s just all ****e nobody knows **** all. And keep saying the same **** doesn’t change the fact nobody knows **** all.
     
    #1300
    Bazza2310 and Monkey69 like this.

Share This Page