Transfer Rumours January Transfer Thread

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It’s all moments though. Scored good goals, but outside of that he’s not influential on the game, it’s harsh but I think people are clouded by him being somewhat of a cult hero. Aside from second half against Hudds I genuinely struggle to think of a game where he’s “played well” without scoring and that’s would make 8 good games out of 52. Which for £30k a week and a sizeable fee, it’s not good enough really.

Koren was the same though. Would have a fairly forgettable 5 or 6 out of 10 performance then score a 30 yard screamer. I do think his best position is as a box-to-box midfielder. The job he's asked to do now is play just behind or next to a striker quite far up the pitch. He'd influence games more in a noticeable way if he play deeper next to Seri or Morton or Slater.
 
It would be interesting to see how Tufan would do given a run of games in the position he’s been used to playing his entire career. It does seem odd he never actually gets to play there.

He really isn’t a striker or a winger and if they’re the only places he’s going to play then it makes sense to try and sell him and replace with someone who actually plays those positions properly.
 
I’d really like a centre half, one injury to Jones or Greaves and we are looking at bottom mid table. I know a lot of people seem to like Macca but all I see is him getting skinned alive and being out of position…
 
I’d really like a centre half, one injury to Jones or Greaves and we are looking at bottom mid table. I know a lot of people seem to like Macca but all I see is him getting skinned alive and being out of position…

Though interestingly as noted elsewhere on the board...

Highest % of aerials won in the Championship this season (min 30):

1️⃣ Sean McLoughlin - 80% ⭐
2️⃣ Sean Morrison - 78.8%
3️⃣ Kevin Long - 76.6%
4️⃣ Jannik Vestergaard - 76.5%
5️⃣ Scott Wharton - 75.7%
6️⃣ Okay Yokuslu - 74.5%
7️⃣ Liam Lindsay - 74.3%

Today at 10:13 AM
 
What's more influential for a player than popping up out of seemingly nowhere with goals?

I think Tufan does more than he gets credit for and I think he's one of the smartest players in the squad. As far as I'm concerned he's one we should be looking to hold onto.
 
Though interestingly as noted elsewhere on the board...

Highest % of aerials won in the Championship this season (min 30):

1️⃣ Sean McLoughlin - 80% ⭐
2️⃣ Sean Morrison - 78.8%
3️⃣ Kevin Long - 76.6%
4️⃣ Jannik Vestergaard - 76.5%
5️⃣ Scott Wharton - 75.7%
6️⃣ Okay Yokuslu - 74.5%
7️⃣ Liam Lindsay - 74.3%

Today at 10:13 AM

this tweet was what spurred on my post, a daft stat when footy is watched with the eyes and his carthorse style behaviour often leads to chances and goals.
 
this tweet was what spurred on my post, a daft stat when footy is watched with the eyes and his carthorse style behaviour often leads to chances and goals.

He's nowhere near as good as Greaves on the ball or defending. The only thing he has over Greaves is he's better in the air. Greaves has a 50p head. Jones and Greaves is our best centre-back partnership but Greaves has been shoehorned in at left-back because the two left-backs Rosenior wanted aren't good or fit enough.
 
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What's more influential for a player than popping up out of seemingly nowhere with goals?

I think Tufan does more than he gets credit for and I think he's one of the smartest players in the squad. As far as I'm concerned he's one we should be looking to hold onto.
He’s scored in 2 games he’s featured in that’s hardly popping up with goals out of nowhere. 3 against one of the worst sides this division has seen.

Also what has he done this season to be considered one of our smartest players?
 
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Though interestingly as noted elsewhere on the board...

Highest % of aerials won in the Championship this season (min 30):

1️⃣ Sean McLoughlin - 80% ⭐
2️⃣ Sean Morrison - 78.8%
3️⃣ Kevin Long - 76.6%
4️⃣ Jannik Vestergaard - 76.5%
5️⃣ Scott Wharton - 75.7%
6️⃣ Okay Yokuslu - 74.5%
7️⃣ Liam Lindsay - 74.3%

Today at 10:13 AM

It's a surprising stat this. He's not that great in the air is he? Didn't think any of ours were particularly dominant. If he's the best in the division then it's about time he started doing it at set pieces!
 
The Tufan discussion has always seemed a bit different from the reality of him to me. People talk about him as this mercurial talent with amazing ability but he's been here nearly a season and a half now and he's shown very little of that. When he's not playing, people say we miss his guile and ability to unlock defences but I don't think we ever really see that from him. There was a moment on Saturday where he did a nice little dummy to let Greaves through, and it was a good bit of play, but people on the match thread where talking like it was something only he could do. I think lots of players do stuff like that, and when say Slater does it it wouldn't be really noticed but when it's Tufan people want him to be this genius so they put it down to that. It's a reputation he has but I don't know where it comes from. I think his passing on the whole is pretty average, and he's dispossessed a lot, without being the type of player to take positive risks which make being dispossessed more understandable, like Philogene does for example by trying to take people on. Often he gets shrugged off the ball, goes down easily and the ref sees through it; he's crap at selling the contact but loves to try it. I suspect that habit is a big reason that we don't play him deeper, it's too much of a risk to have teams breaking on us when we've committed bodies high up because he's gone down in possession and let them run away with it. The other reason he plays up front is that he is a very good finisher, that's his big strength for me, not creativity. He's also pretty robust on the whole, can be strong when out of possession and can at times put a shift in.

Whether he's worth keeping I think is open to debate, although the wages he's supposedly on would count against him. But I would say that he's not in the top tier of attacking players in our squad who are must-start when available and he's not the creative talent people sometimes make out he is.

His performance in the Sheffield Wednesday game was brilliant. Not just the goals but his whole game. But sadly I don't think he's had another game anywhere near as good as that for us.
 
The Tufan discussion has always seemed a bit different from the reality of him to me. People talk about him as this mercurial talent with amazing ability but he's been here nearly a season and a half now and he's shown very little of that. When he's not playing, people say we miss his guile and ability to unlock defences but I don't think we ever really see that from him. There was a moment on Saturday where he did a nice little dummy to let Greaves through, and it was a good bit of play, but people on the match thread where talking like it was something only he could do. I think lots of players do stuff like that, and when say Slater does it it wouldn't be really noticed but when it's Tufan people want him to be this genius so they put it down to that. It's a reputation he has but I don't know where it comes from. I think his passing on the whole is pretty average, and he's dispossessed a lot, without being the type of player to take positive risks which make being dispossessed more understandable, like Philogene does for example by trying to take people on. Often he gets shrugged off the ball, goes down easily and the ref sees through it; he's crap at selling the contact but loves to try it. I suspect that habit is a big reason that we don't play him deeper, it's too much of a risk to have teams breaking on us when we've committed bodies high up because he's gone down in possession and let them run away with it. The other reason he plays up front is that he is a very good finisher, that's his big strength for me, not creativity. He's also pretty robust on the whole, can be strong when out of possession and can at times put a shift in.

Whether he's worth keeping I think is open to debate, although the wages he's supposedly on would count against him. But I would say that he's not in the top tier of attacking players in our squad who are must-start when available and he's not the creative talent people sometimes make out he is.

His performance in the Sheffield Wednesday game was brilliant. Not just the goals but his whole game. But sadly I don't think he's had another game anywhere near as good as that for us.
Only one similar is against Burnley where he was by far and away the best player on the pitch
 
this tweet was what spurred on my post, a daft stat when footy is watched with the eyes and his carthorse style behaviour often leads to chances and goals.

Generally speaking it doesn't though.

His mistake at Swansea, but don't make a general point based on a **** up when only a few weeks ago we looked more solid with him in the back 4.
 
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Really hope this isn’t true…

Clause only activates if we're in the same division. If that's not the case the Tan has some explaining to do.

Not only that, he may find a contract on the table that reflects his development with us.

If he has agreed a deal in principle with them( which I doubt considering he moved away) then it's unlikely to be competitive given his form this season
 
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