Macca to Barnsley

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TWF

First of all I'm not going to get into a slagging match with you, but I'd just like to say I'm a similar age to you and I know a few people who act just like you do on here. You seem to enjoy having a different opinion for the sake of being different and feel the need to air it at every opportunity. You've decided you won't like the Pearson's and that's that. I get the feeling if we did a swap deal ***an for Ronaldo you'd say NP was stripping the team of it's best wide men or anything else that allows you to be different. Why not just take a step back and look at what you're saying? Do you really think NP is doing a **** job? Really?
 
e18 said:
Jamie Wood was an international for some small Island through some daft link. He also was never worth more than a free transfer. Don't think he played Champs league footy. So not a good example.
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He was still a full international, he did play Champions League football (after leaving us so we're talking clubs signing him after that) and at signing we had no evidence that Belaid is worth more than a free transfer beyond being told he was valued at £2M last year. How much was Welsh meant to be worth before we swapped him for Anderson?
 
TygerTyger said:
TWF, you do the maths. You say Svens actions at Leicester seem to be working but NP's at Hull aren't. On Friday Leicester play Bristol City. They should win but may not. Could be a 0 - 1 to Bristol (say). We play Ipswitch on Saturday. Should win, lets say we do 0 - 1.

We are then equal on points, but we have a +5 Goal Diff. and they have a 0 GD.

We swap places in the Table.

A set of possibilities not too fantastic to contemplate.

Where does this leave your infatuation with all things Sven?

I note you are at Hallam. You don't seem to support Sheffield (either of them) and your views on here suggest to me that you don't support Hull, so where are you from, who (if anyone) do you support, and how often have you actually been to a Hull City match?

Please do me the courtesy of answering my questions (honestly) and I'll do you the courtesy of listening to, and respecting (but not always agreeing with) your opinions. Perhaps a greater understanding of each others position will lead to a consensus. Worth a try don't you think?
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I obviously support Hull City, I uploaded a picture of my season pass and mug a few weeks back to prove this.

I get the train back to every home game which in effect doubles the cost of going to a match, which is why I'm not overly happy with the dour football we've been getting this season.

I hope this clears things up.
 
You get the train back to where? Are you saying you are from Hull but live in Sheffield? In which case as a student on a limited income, if you travel to see all the home games, hats off to you.

Do you take my point about Leicester?
 
Yes I'm from Hull but live and study in Sheffield, I've kept my season ticket whilst at uni so I travel to all home games, occasionally having to miss midweek games though.

I take your point about Leicester, but when they played us they played a lot better, I still think our results suggest we're much better than we actually are and eventually it'll catch up with us, I hope it doesn't but I can't see us getting promoted playing the way we are.
 
McShane has a shocker according to the Portsmouth Evening News. Not a good start for him at his new club. Also got carded, yellow.
 
Are you seriously saying that you'd rather get promoted this season? We've only just managed to string together a team capable of playing at this level never mind the prem! I honestly see us doing worse than we did in our last prem season. I'd much rather stay in this division, get a stronger team together (e.g. not be dependent on loans) and then challenge for promotion next season when we have a chance of staying up.
 
MattTheTiger said:
Are you seriously saying that you'd rather get promoted this season? We've only just managed to string together a team capable of playing at this level never mind the prem! I honestly see us doing worse than we did in our last prem season. I'd much rather stay in this division, get a stronger team together (e.g. not be dependent on loans) and then challenge for promotion next season when we have a chance of staying up.
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Of course I'm saying I'd rather get promoted this season. How could you not want to?
 
For the above reasons stated, I'd like to build a team capable of challenging for the title next season, not be dependent on loans and generally have better players :/. We'd get mullered next season if we went up.
 
Getting promoted would be great, as long as we continue to play the passing football that is starting to emerge from our team. If we get relegated then we will have a very experienced, young team. It's looking a tall order now, each game that passes with a 7 point gap makes it less likely. UTT
 
MattTheTiger said:
For the above reasons stated, I'd like to build a team capable of challenging for the title next season, not be dependent on loans and generally have better players :/. We'd get mullered next season if we went up.
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We thought that when we went up last time "A mid table team in good form" was the call of most pundits, then we beat Arsenal at the Emirates. Football teams should always be aiming to win every game, if you win every game you go up. To "aim for midtable" is to resign to the fact that you'll lose games, and I don't think that's the right mentality to have. Obviously a team can't win every game in a season, but I think that's what you should aim for.
 
I think the team does try to win every game. We are turning into a good attacking team, considering we were looking at another relegation we've done really well this season. A good job by the management/owners.
 
Horsham_Tiger said:
I think the team does try to win every game. We are turning into a good attacking team, considering we were looking at another relegation we've done really well this season. A good job by the management/owners.
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We should never have been looking at a relegation though, and I'd dispute we look anything like good or attacking.
 
There has been some really good passing/attacking moves of late. As for the possibility of relegation, any team can get relegated! We've done really well to recover, we could easily have gone into administration and been in a very poor position. Thank goodness it's all turned out well. Thanks Allams/Pearsons!

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Horsham_Tiger said:
There has been some really good passing/attacking moves of late. As for the possibility of relegation, any team can get relegated! We've done really well to recover, we could easily have gone into administration and been in a very poor position. Thank goodness it's all turned out well. Thanks Allams/Pearsons!

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Wow. Not any team can be relegated, in theory yes, in principle no. We should've been nowhere near relegation, ever.

The threat of administration was brought on by Adam Pearson, y'know, the guy who A. Employed Ian Dowie and B. Wanted us to go into administration.

Thanks Allams, but I'll be thanking you even more if you bring in a decent management team.
 
I think we were doomed anyway after the poor season we'd had last year. I didn't agree with the timing of PB's gardening leave or the appointment of Dowie. I think Brown should have gone much sooner. I'm very much in favour of AP's work over his two spells at the KC, he won't get everything right but in general it's been great.

As for "in theory yes, in principle no" I don't quite understand what you mean. Do you mean that we are too big a club to go down? That's a mistake that too many other clubs have made in various leagues. Carrying on that chain of thought would logically lead to we should never go up either!
 
TWF said:
Wow. Not any team can be relegated, in theory yes, in principle no. We should've been nowhere near relegation, ever.

The threat of administration was brought on by Adam Pearson, y'know, the guy who A. Employed Ian Dowie and B. Wanted us to go into administration.
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There's former European Cup winners played in L1 more recently than we have. There's former League champions and FA Cup winners still playing there now.

I think you'll find the threat of administration was brought on by us committing to higher outgoings than our income was ever going to be prior to AP's arrival. Don't forget the auditor's report had a deficit in place even if we'd stayed up so not taking any footballing decisions the board did take that you may disagree with (I'd have got rid of Brown as well, but I'd have had AP picking the team before I hired Dowie) would only have reduced the threat rather than removing it.
 
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