Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

We should be cutting off the French money immediately. Sorry lads, you're doing nothing to stop these boats and we now need that money to look after everyone you're deliberately allowing to cross.

Sad to say it, but we also need to be taking a harder line on both who we pick up and what we do with them after they've illegally entered the UK and are therefore criminals who shouldn't be eligible for asylum. Immediate return.
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It’s like all crime though. Some get caught some don’t. It’s like saying ‘I promise I will stop all crime’. Some thicko’s might believe you then they get angry when someone scratches their car and doesn’t get caught so shouts and puts it on Facebook. When will people realise shouting ‘stop the boats’ is just a diversion and will never happen. I’m going to put a sandwich board on and walk around saying ‘stop travelling in cars’ and see how long it is before I get sent to an and e for assessment.
Just seen a report that says tougher French policing is the reason for a current downtrend, with the smugglers being forced further along the coast. Of course it's a long coastline so as you say , whilst the police are busy catching in one spot, others will have the opportunity to proceed
 
Just seen a report that says tougher French policing is the reason for a current downtrend, with the smugglers being forced further along the coast. Of course it's a long coastline so as you say , whilst the police are busy catching in one spot, others will have the opportunity to proceed
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On radio phone-ins, etc, I keep hearing people shouting 'I agree with Rishi, we should stop the boats and stop wasting all this money on these costly schemes.'

Sorry but it's the government who aren't stopping the boats and who are wasting all this money ...

... you can't have your cake and eat it.

They've had thirteen years to make things better, but they're worse.
 
On radio phone-ins, etc, I keep hearing people shouting 'I agree with Rishi, we should stop the boats and stop wasting all this money on these costly schemes.'

Sorry but it's the government who aren't stopping the boats and who are wasting all this money ...

... you can't have your cake and eat it.

They've had thirteen years to make things better, but they're worse.
Yep always coming up with solutions to problems that they themselves created. <laugh>
 
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It's obviously the weak opposition to blame ...

... if they voted against the government, more carefully, life could be so much better.
They are the Frank Spencer of politics. Making schoolboy errors then making things 100 times worse with their inept attempts to "fix" things. Beyond parody.
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It's politics by shouting.

Patel threatened to send in the Royal Navy gunboats, Braverman threatened to send people to Rwanda and Sunak threatened to destroy the gangs ...

... it's just endless foot stamping rhetoric and no action.

When it fails just make excuses and blame the French.
 
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Birmingham City Council (Labour since 2012) files for bankruptcy.

Aye mainly down to the additional £760m equal pay bill from a court ruling in 2012, the same year that Labour gained overall control. The council has already paid out over £1bn since then...I reckon most would go bust if faced with that no matter who was the controlling party.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-66042403

I'd say that the council has known about this for a while and should have probably been budgeting for it but with years of funding cuts from the government thats probably not been possible
 
Aye mainly down to the additional £760m equal pay bill from a court ruling in 2012, the same year that Labour gained overall control. The council has already paid out over £1bn since then...I reckon most would go bust if faced with that no matter who was the controlling party.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-66042403

I'd say that the council has known about this for a while and should have probably been budgeting for it but with years of funding cuts from the government thats probably not been possible

I'd normally agree with you, but if 'been in charge for over a decade therefore no excuse' is good for one side, it's good for the other. They've had eleven years to sort it out...
 
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Aye mainly down to the additional £760m equal pay bill from a court ruling in 2012, the same year that Labour gained overall control. The council has already paid out over £1bn since then...I reckon most would go bust if faced with that no matter who was the controlling party.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-66042403

I'd say that the council has known about this for a while and should have probably been budgeting for it but with years of funding cuts from the government thats probably not been possible

Yes you'd think 10/13 years would be long enough to make some kind of progress ...

... perhaps if they're elected for another term eh?

They're not the first council this happened to, can't recall the others but it's happened for sure. There'll probably be more if they have to fork out to replace all these crumbling schools.
 
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I'd normally agree with you, but if 'been in charge for over a decade therefore no excuse' is good for one side, it's good for the other. They've had eleven years to sort it out...

Yeah I get what you mean, it’s about £150m a year though so anyone would struggle with that.

Absolutely no doubt it could have been managed better…I mean how much did the olympics cost to the council. Conversely how much did they make and where did it go?
 
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Yeah I get what you mean, it’s about £150m a year though so anyone would struggle with that.

Absolutely no doubt it could have been managed better…I mean how much did the olympics cost to the council. Conversely how much did they make and where did it go?

Wasn't there a Commonwealth Games there recently as well?
 
Yes you'd think 10/13 years would be long enough to make some kind of progress ...

... perhaps if they're elected for another term eh?

They're not the first council this happened to, can't recall the others but it's happened for sure. There'll probably be more if they have to fork out to replace all these crumbling schools.

Just googled it.

20th March 2023
"Tory-run Croydon Council issued its third bankruptcy notice in two years in November and earlier this month signed off a record 15 per cent council tax rise in a bid to smooth out its finances.

The special measures move clears the way for central government to write off more than £500million of loans the local authority has racked up and cannot pay back."
 
What with Council's going bankrupt, rampant inflation, utility bills through the roof, strikes left right and centre, sewage in the rivers and seas, illegal immigration skyrocketing, and schools threatening to collapse on top of children, I am starting to have my doubts as to whether it really could have been "worse under Jeremy Corbyn" <confused>
 
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What with Council's going bankrupt, rampant inflation, utility bills through the roof, strikes left right and centre, sewage in the rivers and seas, illegal immigration skyrocketing, and schools threatening to collapse on top of children, I am starting to have my doubts as to whether it really could have been "worse under Jeremy Corbyn" <confused>
I wouldn’t.<ok>