Transfer Rumours Summer '23 Transfer Thread

[HCAFCHangout]

Not very good management of our FFP headroom when Stoke and Brum can out-spend us, is it? Really shows how ****e last summer was.

Stoke will have way more wiggle room than we do anyway. Owner is wealthiest in the championship, bigger stadium with a higher average attendance etc etc.

Birmingham I think have the same benefit we did last year. Good headroom with new owner and they sold Jobe Bellingham for an ok fee. In fairness they've been a sleeping giant waiting for someone to get them right again.

The real ****ter is probably someone like Plymouth outspending us but it goes to show how one bad window can really **** up a few

 

[Shark Sports]

I get that but some of the transfers we got late into the window last summer were shocking. Harvey Vale and Salah-Eddine the main ones and Pelkas hardly had a huge impact. Woods was rather late into the window if I remember as well. Christie was the only late summer signing that improved the core of the squad.

It’s been an unimpressive window so far and I’m not holding out that it will get much better. Still significant weaknesses in this squad.

The window has been exactly what we needed so far, a lot safer and boring. But all the players coming in improve us. If we add 3/4 more plus replacing any outgoings we'll finish the window with a stronger and more rounded squad than we had last season and that's job done.

 

[HCAFCHangout]

The window has been exactly what we needed so far, a lot safer and boring. But all the players coming in improve us. If we add 3/4 more plus replacing any outgoings we'll finish the window with a stronger and more rounded squad than we had last season and that's job done.

At his Q&A session last season Rosenior hinted this is a 3-5 year project almost as he referenced Brighton and Brentford is the model being followed. I just think people largely are impatient so want it this year

 

[Shark Sports]

At his Q&A session last season Rosenior hinted this is a 3-5 year project almost as he referenced Brighton and Brentford is the model being followed. I just think people largely are impatient so want it this year

It's definitely a long-term project and it's been made harder as we have to alter some of the business done last year but I'm pretty happy with the window so far. It's also easy to forget but Jones, Macca, Coyle, Slater and Vaughan have all signed long-term deals this summer too. It ain't exciting but it's really necessary and they've all got their best years ahead of them.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

Not very good management of our FFP headroom when Stoke and Brum can out-spend us, is it? Really shows how ****e last summer was.

Yep, not disagreeing, I've been banging that drum for a fair while. Staggers me that we've pissed the KLP money and then some up the wall.

In saying that, Stoke do have quite a large turnover, but I did think they'd be much more modest this summer with their own FFP issues.

 

[SydneyTiger14]

Stoke will have way more wiggle room than we do anyway. Owner is wealthiest in the championship, bigger stadium with a higher average attendance etc etc.

Birmingham I think have the same benefit we did last year. Good headroom with new owner and they sold Jobe Bellingham for an ok fee. In fairness they've been a sleeping giant waiting for someone to get them right again.

The real ****ter is probably someone like Plymouth outspending us but it goes to show how one bad window can really **** up a few

Birmingham also got the Jude Bellingham sell on.

Plymouth are run sustainably so have no losses to worry about per se from an FFP perspective (I'm sure they have a small loss technically speaking, I haven't actually looked at their accounts, but they're run very well).

 

[Jeff Lynnes PBCW™]

At his Q&A session last season Rosenior hinted this is a 3-5 year project almost as he referenced Brighton and Brentford is the model being followed. I just think people largely are impatient so want it this year

Everyone chill.
I can't believe Acun will be happy going into this season with just the additions to the team so far.
Trust the process.

 

[Ric Glasgow]

It's definitely a long-term project and it's been made harder as we have to alter some of the business done last year but I'm pretty happy with the window so far. It's also easy to forget but Jones, Macca, Coyle, Slater and Vaughan have all signed long-term deals this summer too. It ain't exciting but it's really necessary and they've all got their best years ahead of them.

No argument here,merely a question.

Haven't the expectations and time-scale came from the owner? Not once have I heard,or seen quoted by Acun or Kessler a statement to the effect that this is a long-term project?

 

[Shark Sports]

Birmingham also got the Jude Bellingham sell on.

Plymouth are run sustainably so have no losses to worry about per se from an FFP perspective (I'm sure they have a small loss technically speaking, I haven't actually looked at their accounts, but they're run very well).

They've sold Chong as well, so they've got plenty of cash.

Ipswich have come up and tried to splash the cash but they've found it difficult and have missed out plenty of players.

 

[Kalman]

No argument here,merely a question.

Haven't the expectations and time-scale came from the owner? Not once have I heard,or seen quoted by Acun or Kessler a statement to the effect that this is a long-term project?

They’ve actually said the opposite. They don’t have the patience for a 3-5 year project. They want, and I suppose need for FFP purposes, promotion to Premier League ASAP.

 

[HCAFCHangout]

Birmingham also got the Jude Bellingham sell on.

Plymouth are run sustainably so have no losses to worry about per se from an FFP perspective (I'm sure they have a small loss technically speaking, I haven't actually looked at their accounts, but they're run very well).

I totally forgot about the Bellingham sell on. That goes to show really that every team that has spent in the championship this window has a good reason

Coventry - Sold Gyokeres
Birmingham - Bellingham sell on
Leicester - Parachute and sold Maddison/Barnes
Saints - Parachute
Leeds (will spend) - Parachute

Even Norwich and Watford have gone for freebies and that's despite Watford selling Pedro for £30m. Bristol and Sunderland have spent a bit by looks of it but even Stoke have only paid a fee for 1 player

 

[HCAFCHangout]

Everyone chill.
I can't believe Acun will be happy going into this season with just the additions to the team so far.
Trust the process.

I'm chill. I know more are incoming and I believe the squad will be stronger this year. Hopefully we can shift some deadwood off wages as well

 

[Shark Sports]

I totally forgot about the Bellingham sell on. That goes to show really that every team that has spent in the championship this window has a good reason

Coventry - Sold Gyokeres
Birmingham - Bellingham sell on
Leicester - Parachute and sold Maddison/Barnes
Saints - Parachute
Leeds (will spend) - Parachute

Even Norwich and Watford have gone for freebies and that's despite Watford selling Pedro for £30m. Bristol and Sunderland have spent a bit by looks of it but even Stoke have only paid a fee for 1 player

Across all the teams there's not a lot of money for transfer fees in the Championship as wages are so high. It's why the partnerships with Roma and Shelbourne are so important. It's about giving us an edge that nobody else has.

 

[Kalman]

I totally forgot about the Bellingham sell on. That goes to show really that every team that has spent in the championship this window has a good reason

Coventry - Sold Gyokeres
Birmingham - Bellingham sell on
Leicester - Parachute and sold Maddison/Barnes
Saints - Parachute
Leeds (will spend) - Parachute

Even Norwich and Watford have gone for freebies and that's despite Watford selling Pedro for £30m. Bristol and Sunderland have spent a bit by looks of it but even Stoke have only paid a fee for 1 player

It isn’t so much about spending loads of money but about getting the majority of their key transfer targets in early. We haven’t really done that which indicates that we can’t compete with other Championship clubs when it comes to spending fees and wages this summer due to FFP or that players aren’t that eager to come here. Both of which are slightly concerning.

 

[HFFP]

It's definitely a long-term project and it's been made harder as we have to alter some of the business done last year but I'm pretty happy with the window so far. It's also easy to forget but Jones, Macca, Coyle, Slater and Vaughan have all signed long-term deals this summer too. It ain't exciting but it's really necessary and they've all got their best years ahead of them.

Well the owner was talking premier league in LR birthday video.

 

[HCAFCHangout]

It isn’t so much about spending loads of money but about getting the majority of their key transfer targets in early. We haven’t really done that which indicates that we can’t compete with other Championship clubs when it comes to spending fees and wages this summer due to FFP or that players aren’t that eager to come here. Both of which are slightly concerning.

I would probably agree. I would bet we've missed out on one or two which has hindered things. It does also seem that PL teams are being stingier with loans this year as well at a quick glance I only count 7 which feels lower than usually at this stage. We are very much a club that players will hopefully love when they're here but convincing them initially is difficult

Across all the teams there's not a lot of money for transfer fees in the Championship as wages are so high. It's why the partnerships with Roma and Shelbourne are so important. It's about giving us an edge that nobody else has.

I wonder if we cash in on the Roma connection this year

 

[Shark Sports]

Well the owner was talking premier league in LR birthday video.

Of course they will, nobody wants to hear that the realistic aim is top 10. That doesn't create a buzz and that doesn't sell passes.

They've clearly realised that you can't buy a few talents from Turkey and get promoted. The strategy has changed dramatically and I think they definitely understand how hard it is to come with sides with parachute payments.

It feels like we've switched to signing players we can improve or put back into the shop window and that's absolutely fine. Regardless of what is said about LR, he's a good coach and improves players, we've seen that 1st hand with many of the domestic lads.

 

[Jim the Tiger]

Just on that last bit, I think some people's support absolutely can be questioned. Maybe it's not people who post on here, I don't know, but there really was a lot of pissing and moaning in the stands last season, around me in North particularly, and it harms the team's chances. The worst of it was when we were playing out from the keeper and people were screaming with rage about it, piling extra pressure on the players who were trying to perform, essentially doing the away crowd's job for them. I do think this constant and growing trend of negativity online can only make that kind of thing more likely.

Yup. Regardless of what I post on here I never criticise or boo players on game day. It is absolutely pointless, helps nobody including the person booing. Blood pressure needs to be kept low for the majority of people posting on here!!

 

[John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.]

It seems Tom Nixon got a lot of praise, keeping Josh Windass quiet in Donny's friendly against Massive.

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[John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.]

Apparently Kompany wanted to look at him during pre-season, rather than let him out straight away.

I still wonder whether Greaves might be of interest to Burnley with Twine coming the other way?