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Off Topic Deepfake scams

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by balkan tiger, Jul 7, 2023.

  1. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    Seen on the news a story of fake investments scheme appearing to be promoted by Martin Lewis. This is where tech has got to and it's only going to get worse. How can it be stopped, if it can.
     
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    I just saw him tweet about this. I'm sure that with AI there is the threat of serious deep fakes becoming common but I'm not sure this is an example of it. It was really just a video of him talking, with someone else's words played over the top of it saying something very different. You could've made such a video in the 90s.
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

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    There's fake Facebook adverts promoting investments claiming to be promoted by Martin Lewis and Elon Musk on Facebook, thousands of them, they appear for me every day and I always report them (must have had around 300 deleted so far), it's been going on for years.

    Facebook are terrible at this stuff, they allow any advert to go up and then delete it when reported, there's zero advance vetting of these scam adverts. They're happy to take the money until they're reported and then claim they act on all reports so are policing it, when really they complicit in these adverts running in the first place.

    There's a load of Chinese scam websites offering clothing that they don't have, they lift images from UK websites and then offer them for sale at vastly reduced prices. There's hundreds of Facebook pages running these adverts, but they all link to just handful of websites. Facebook know exactly who they are, but are happy to let these scammers continue and only remove them when they're individually reported. Drives me mad.
     
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    Don't ITV have a deep fake show now? They disable the technology during the credits so you can see the faces of the actors who are playing the supposed celebs.

    The technology has been pretty accessible for 5ish years nows, it will only get worse.
     
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  5. Trumpton Tiger.

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    Agree with the above.I got scammed via a facebook ad for a pair of shoes which were advertised as being from a reputable firm in Northampton. Cost me £60 plus postage, only after I had paid did I see it was actually a firm in China. Of course no shoes arrived. i complained to facebook and they did nothing and I see this and similar ads for 'handmade shoes' from reputable English suppliers on there every day. They are a scam and facebook known they are.
     
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    My rule of thumb on “bargains” is stick to the old adage, if it sounds too good to be true it probably is.
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    I assume it was one of the Loake’s or Church’s ‘outlet’ adverts, which offer the goods with an 80-90% discount, I’ve reported lots of them as well.

    That’s good advice from FER ARK, companies like those are never going to sell goods that heavily discounted.
     
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  8. Ric Glasgow

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    Did you try and get your money back through 'charge-back' U.P?

    I had a similar incident last year,paid £35 or thereabouts for a couple of Clash jigsaws but they never arrived.I got on to my bank and they refunded the money to my account(they then pursued the company for the money they had given to me).

    Of course,if there's no company there to pursue it could prove difficult?

    I'm pretty careful in who I deal with since that incident though,there's a lot of utter ****s out there who'll rob you blind given half the chance...
     
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  9. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

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    I'm not knocking it, I'm partial to the odd picture puzzle mesen, but I wonder what the Spirit of 1977 makes of The Clash jigsaw?


    Actually, it's a pity it wasn't a Pistols jigsaw 'cos then your bank could have replied to you saying 'Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?'
     
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  10. Ric Glasgow

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    'It's a swindle' Ernie...But it's merchandise.

    Eventually got the 2 jigsaws from another mob,they were difficult to say the least!!
     
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    Anything too good to be true almost always is..
    My philosophy in life, treat everything as a con or fake until proven otherwise….
     
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  12. The Compositor

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    There’s an old adage: if it seems too good to be true - it is.
     
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    for all the fakes created by tech we will have tech countering them
    maybe by alerting the real people so they can do something about it?
     
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    Good series on BBC iplayer called Scam Interceptors about a group of people intercepting scam calls and stopping people being stolen from. Got a call on Saturday purporting to be from Sky. It was like a step by step exchange they showed regularly from centres in Pakistan and India right to up to trying to get me to install some software on my iphone, so I had fun tagging along. Then started asking him questions and he got very shirty when I said send me an email or SMS my phone. If you are from SKY you will have both. He said they can’t divulge emails under data protection. But I know my email and if you are SKY you will as you contact me regularly so there is no breach. In fact, seeing as you are ringing me you will know my name. More bluster. I said you don’t know because you are a conman and put the phone down. I was on my guard from the start as SKY never use my landline to contact me. Five minutes later unbelieveably .I got another call and from a mobile number saying we had been cut off and him insisting they were genuine. This switching of numbers is a common feature. This time I told him to **** off and don’t bother me again. If you don’t like my language if you were genuine you could complain to somebody, but you aren’t.Heard nothing since.
     
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    Keep getting phone calls from "Sky" (about once a month) but as we don't do any buisness with Sky, it's easy to spot as a scam. The phone call always sounds as if it comes from the far side of the galaxy and the caller always has a very strong accent. Hopefully they stay obvious
     
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    Rico and I knew someone that told one of that type of caller to **** off, the next week he got a phone call at 3 in the morning waking him up, he answered and the caller said 'ha ha now you **** off'! :emoticon-0125-mmm:


    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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    I just say: "You dont sound like a Simon".
    or when they say they are at the head office of BT in the City - despite call centres not being in the head office - I ask them what the weather is like.
    They pretend they dont understand the question while desperately looking up the weather.
     
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  20. Ric Glasgow

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    They probably get 9 people like you and I out of every 10 calls but they'll eventually stumble across someone who is extremely vulnerable and that's when the problems start for the unsuspecting.

    A lot of older people can easily fall for these scammers because they just trust and believe the caller.The people who carry out these practices are vermin but a lot of them are simply untouchable due to their locations...
     
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