Dr Strangelove (how I learned to stop worrying and love Boris)

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Braverman declares it's unfair to blame the critical incident at the Port of Dover on Brexit.

Boo hoo it's just not fair <wah>

Last year:

Mark Simmonds of the British Ports Association said that more stringent border checks were a “reality of life” after Brexit and the creation of an external border with France.
“There are going to be queues now because it takes longer to get through,” he said. <doh>
 
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Braverman declares it's unfair to blame the critical incident at the Port of Dover on Brexit.

Boo hoo it's just not fair <wah>

Last year:

Mark Simmonds of the British Ports Association said that more stringent border checks were a “reality of life” after Brexit and the creation of an external border with France.
“There are going to be queues now because it takes longer to get through,” he said. <doh>
"Let's get rid of all that bureaucracy and red tape" :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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"Let's get rid of all that bureaucracy and red tape" :emoticon-0102-bigsm

Just do what we always do and 'blame the French' ... then expect them to cooporate with all the madcap schemes of deploying the Royal Navy to use gunboats on women and children, sending the boats back to France or putting people on non-existent barges.

It's ironic that the Port of Dover, since Brexit, is short of people prepared to do the lowpaid menial work while we're fighting the courts to send immigrants to Rwanda at massive cost to the taxpayers, many of whom are sitting on coaches for ten hours trying to go the other way.

It currently takes holiday makers four times longer to cross the Channel than thousands of people crowded into leaking dinghies <laugh>
 
If he does go down (I think he'll be convicted but won't go to prison, just enough to stop him running again) it'll be interesting to see how that works with his secret service detail etc.
I don’t know the ins and outs of American politics but Sky News are claiming he could still be elected president if/when he goes to jail.
 
I don’t know the ins and outs of American politics but Sky News are claiming he could still be elected president if/when he goes to jail.

Doesn’t surprise me, nothing does about that basket case of a country.
 
And we aspire to be like them. Whatever happens there happens here 10 years later.

The defence of Trump is ridiculously fanatical and quite unhealthy.

Any criticism of him is dismissed as irrational.

Surely it's reasonable to comment on examples of his criminality and duplicity, same goes for Boris Johnson. His own colleagues kicked him out for his behaviour but it's deemed obsessive, by some, to point it out.
 
Of all the lame excuses trotted out by Johnson, Truss, Rees Mogg, Hancock, etc nothing beats Braverman and her classic for the horrendous delays at Dover.

Despite overloaded dinghies managing to made endless crossings she's claiming it's 'bad weather' to blame for huge ocean going ferries being unable to do thirty miles across the Channel <laugh>

I always wondered what happened to Rodger the Dodger's book of excuses.
 
I don’t know the ins and outs of American politics but Sky News are claiming he could still be elected president if/when he goes to jail.

Uncharted water there. It's a weird system but it's difficult to argue it isn't better than ours with it's checks and balances. It survived someone like Trump, where ours is entirely based on everyone acting in good faith all the time and we know that doesn't happen.
 
Heard some "expert" on the radio last night say that the deal with Rwanda is reciprocal, i.e. Rwanda can send asylum seekers TO the UK as well as us sending them there. Bloke went on to say that whilst we could send a finite number to Rwanda, there is no limit to how many Rwanda could send to us. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
Heard some "expert" on the radio last night say that the deal with Rwanda is reciprocal, i.e. Rwanda can send asylum seekers TO the UK as well as us sending them there. Bloke went on to say that whilst we could send a finite number to Rwanda, there is no limit to how many Rwanda could send to us. :emoticon-0102-bigsm

I doubt (slightly doubt, not massively doubt) even our government would be that stupid however the clause is very vague.

Clause 16 of the agreement...

16 Resettlement of vulnerable Refugees
16.1 The Participants will make arrangements for the United Kingdom to resettle a portion of Rwanda’s most vulnerable refugees in the United Kingdom, recognising both Participants’ commitment towards providing better international protection for refugees.
 
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I doubt (slightly doubt, not massively doubt) even our government would be that stupid however the clause is very vague.

Clause 16 of the agreement...

16 Resettlement of vulnerable Refugees
16.1 The Participants will make arrangements for the United Kingdom to resettle a portion of Rwanda’s most vulnerable refugees in the United Kingdom, recognising both Participants’ commitment towards providing better international protection for refugees.

We'd have a say in who we took, rather than being forced into accepting anyone who can get a toe onto UK soil. No issue with that at all for me. Genuinely persecuted or displaced people should always be welcome.
 
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I doubt (slightly doubt, not massively doubt) even our government would be that stupid however the clause is very vague.

Clause 16 of the agreement...

16 Resettlement of vulnerable Refugees
16.1 The Participants will make arrangements for the United Kingdom to resettle a portion of Rwanda’s most vulnerable refugees in the United Kingdom, recognising both Participants’ commitment towards providing better international protection for refugees.
Just repeating what the bloke said. But even if we take their asylum seekers 1:1, we are no better off than before in terms of numbers.
 
Just repeating what the bloke said. But even if we take their asylum seekers 1:1, we are no better off than before in terms of numbers.

As if the whole system wasn't already overcomplicated, hamstrung by endless bureaucracy and fraught with anomalies ...

... the 'solutions' are endless headlines and bold statements about Naval gunboats, task forces, enforced repatriation, barges in the Channel, smashing the gangs, etc etc etc.

Which all adds up to millions wasted and zero progress.
 
As if the whole system wasn't already overcomplicated, hamstrung by endless bureaucracy and fraught with anomalies ...

... the 'solutions' are endless headlines and bold statements about Naval gunboats, task forces, enforced repatriation, barges in the Channel, smashing the gangs, etc etc etc.

Which all adds up to millions wasted and zero progress.
You are sounding like the lads who repeat we have no strikers