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Smug in Boots said:
If the worst comes to the worst they'll sell their best players and go down again ...

... the Southampton model seems to have come unglued, reminds me of my attempts with Airfix <laugh>
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That's the trouble with models, they have to evolve as your situation changes and a lot of clubs go from survival mode to hoying silly cash at average players and coming unstuck.
 
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FellTop said:
Somebody just said Jesse Marsch being considered by Southampton. Surely not.
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He did a great job at RB Salzburg and New York Red Bulls as well as spending a lot of time at RB Leipzig which is where Ralph Hassenhuttl made his name. Southampton spent 4 years building a squad around the style the red bull teams are known for and structured their academy in the same way.

Marsch is the right style and fit for the club. Whether he has the required quality is a different matter, but it suggests they're looking for continuity rather than tearing everything down and starting again.
 
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Flash Gordon said:
He did a great job at RB Salzburg and New York Red Bulls as well as spending a lot of time at RB Leipzig which is where Ralph Hassenhuttl made his name. Southampton spent 4 years building a squad around the style the red bull teams are known for and structured their academy in the same way.

Marsch is the right style and fit for the club. Whether he has the required quality is a different matter, but it suggests they're looking for continuity rather than tearing everything down and starting again.
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Marsch is ****ing woeful.......just imo.
 
Flash Gordon said:
He did a great job at RB Salzburg and New York Red Bulls as well as spending a lot of time at RB Leipzig which is where Ralph Hassenhuttl made his name. Southampton spent 4 years building a squad around the style the red bull teams are known for and structured their academy in the same way.

Marsch is the right style and fit for the club. Whether he has the required quality is a different matter, but it suggests they're looking for continuity rather than tearing everything down and starting again.
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I'm sure he's served his time and knows his stuff ...

... he just seems to wilt under pressure.
 
Young Ted said:
Did Southampton take a loan off a combination of those yanks or am I mixed up ?
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Think so.

And it just shows you how quickly it can change. Not long ago now, owned by Liebher, they were seen as the perfectly ran club. Producing player after outstanding player over a number of years, running on a budget, easily staying up and more.

And now scrambling around like we were back when they were flying. What the feck happened there?.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
Looks like Southampton are going down.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64653798
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To be honest, Smug, why would they really want him? Sacked by Leeds for being poor after less than a year, 5 months in charge of RB Leipzig where he was pretty poor. He was moderately successful at RB Salzburg and New York Red Bulls, but let's face it, the Austrian league isn't that strong and Jolinton looked prolific there. He might be a decent coach working as a number 2, but he looks miles off being a head coach/manager. He's an underwhelming appointment to chase, I can only think it's because the owners are American or American funded.
 
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C Montgomery Burns said:
To be honest, Smug, why would they really want him? Sacked by Leeds for being poor after less than a year, 5 months in charge of RB Leipzig where he was pretty poor. He was moderately successful at RB Salzburg and New York Red Bulls, but let's face it, the Austrian league isn't that strong and Jolinton looked prolific there. He might be a decent coach working as a number 2, but he looks miles off being a head coach/manager. He's an underwhelming appointment to chase, I can only think it's because the owners are American or American funded.
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I don't think he's the man for that job but he seemed to be the basket they put all their eggs in ...

... the heart seems to have gone out of the club.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
I don't think he's the man for that job but he seemed to be the basket they put all their eggs in ...

... the heart seems to have gone out of the club.
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Totally agree, Smug. It seems to have started when Leibherr sold majority control to a Chinese business man a few years back, but accelerated since these new owners took over. Everything that they'd built up previously seems to being dismantled. It could be a very long road back for them if things keep going this way.
 
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C Montgomery Burns said:
Totally agree, Smug. It seems to have started when Leibherr sold majority control to a Chinese business man a few years back, but accelerated since these new owners took over. Everything that they'd built up previously seems to being dismantled. It could be a very long road back for them if things keep going this way.
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Southampton annoys me tbh.

They 'went bust' and many local businesses went unpaid when they effectively wiped off mountains of debt. They then proceeded to spend again and become an established PL club we were all expected to admire.

It stinks and I couldn't care less if they end up with other financial escapologists like Derby.
 
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