Invasion or invaded ? Yes to both, and spot on and well said Suella ! What else could you possibly call thousands of young men aged between 18 and 35 being somewhere they don’t belong and who have NO right to be here. In a country who’s systems, people, and morals are so warped and broken and it’s woke, liberal, left leaning, Guardian reading people who are so blinkered and anti Britain that they would rather side with the illegals than common sense and our national Security. Get the army and navy in and sort it once and for all by stopping any boat entering our sovereign waters. Blair started all this with the unforgivable open borders policy, and after 12 years of government and a lot of hot air from successive Tory Home Secretaries and no results, it’s good to finally hear from someone with a spine ! But of course there are even the non Conservatives within their own party who will object to anything, providing these scroungers don't end up anywhere near they live. That would be a different story. Take what happened in Martha's Vineyard in America recently as a perfect example of saying one thing and then crying when some illegals get shipped to your area. Labour won't and wouldn’t touch this subject with a barge pole, but we will end up with certain places in this country that have an imbalance of young men compared to the rest of the local population if they are allowed to stay. And from that WILL come serious problems that we've allowed to happen. And all the ones working in the black market won't contribute a penny to state finances. It's reckoned that between 1% and 2% of the whole adult male population of Albania are currently in the UK and a lot of them are not here as asylum seekers, but as part of major money laundering and drugs operations, particularly in the North West. Given how money driven Hunt and Sunak are, and the big black hole in our finances and threats of spending cuts and tax hikes to fill it, what about kicking out every Albanian male from the country and reducing the near £50m hotel bill that we help pay every week and ignoring the lawyers for once ? That's without the RNLI being used as a Taxi service and Border Force likewise. This isn't a difficult thing to fix, if the will is there. I'm not racist, I'm not anti multi-culturalism, and I'm not anti immigration, which in certain working sectors like the NHS is almost a must have. But I am seriously against the free for all we've allowed to happen now, the money it costs us the taxpayer and the threat to our borders. Governments are elected to uphold the will of the people. This government is not doing this in respect of illegal crossings. We can but hope that Suella will remain in post and drive our removal from the ECHR through.
Being serious, whether is an invasion or not is debatable, but it is a massive problem, that is difficult for anyone to deal with. Their are many logistical and morale elements to it, I think at the moment both sides are politicising it, what we really need is a cross party solution. The numbers are ridiculous but using inflammatory language really doesn’t help.
I agree but I don't call plain English, and telling the truth for what it is as inflammatory language. But maybe all the snowflakes on all sides of the house and in our warped MSM who don't like their worthy feelings being hurt do ? These people need a good dose of reality. People get sick on the virtue signalling and inaction that's going on. As I eluded to in the previous post, the Tories could easily lose the next election just on this matter alone, as personally I think the general population of this country are getting beyond sick of this situation, especially in the midst of a financial crisis where illegals get priority over our own citizens. But the Labour party have absolutely NOTHING to offer as a solution and all they want to do is shy away from the issue and pander to their own members who would be happy with the rest of the world landing on our shores unchecked.
Hi Ashton, nice to be back from positivity to negativity ..... and being able to see blur which people are living down here in ........ [ cant see either side clearly , just the mixed up middle bit, like sea water on fresh water on a coastal CENOTE in Mexico]
You don’t maybe, but I do in this case, level heads are needed to resolve the situation and using such language is only going to make matters worse. it’s ok in a debate down the pub, or amongst mates, but people who’s job it is to resolve these issues need to use restraint, and not inflame the situation.
I genuinely think it’s such a big and complicated issue we need to try to get away from party politics on it. It needs a cross party solution.
Sorry, that's nonsense in my humble opinion. The time for the softly softly approach and taking a watching brief is long gone. We've tried negotiating with the French, whose, let's be fair, issue it really is, and despite paying them hundreds of millions of British taxpayers money, there has been a significant worsening of the situation over the last 6 months. This situation needs real action now, not pussy footing around and talking about it for another 2 years. Albania is a member of NATO and an applicant for membership of the EU. These people are not coming here to flee war or persecution. They are coming from a place where British people go for their holidays. They are coming here for freebies and to work our overloaded systems, or to take part in illegal activities that may harm innocent British people. They should all be deported immediately and without the delay of any appeals. How many more need to cross the Channel illegally and further break our borders and support services, before someone with some balls says enough ?
We have to keep within the law. I’m no expert , but I’d imagine what you suggest isn’t, we weren’t even allowed to send any to Rwanda. I’m fed up with ministers grand standing ideas that appear tough, playing to a particular section of the Tory party, but aren’t achievable.
Keeping within the law as opposed being able to do what is right for the citizens of these isles, due to outdated conventions that we signed up to 70 years ago when the world was a very different place, seems to be a major legal sticking point. Without taking decisive action now, I wonder how long it would take to formally withdraw from the ECHR, and who knows what other obstacles and curve balls might be thrown into our path as we try to do us. I say we do our own thing and bugger the consequences. Personally I don't care what the rest of the world think of us. According to what is being taught in our own schools, we're apparently a dreadful race of people anyway who enslaved the world and had the biggest empire the world will ever see and we're a bunch of lazy, racist, mysogynists to boot. However, I'm proud of our history, despite the negative issues, and we weren't alone in making empires back in the day. But we were also renowned for doing things our way, and that's what needs to happen now with this situation. Maggie wouldn't have tolerated it and decisive action would have been taken. That's what great leaders do.
I don’t think that’s likely to happen, so now what?, we have to find a way that’s affective, and legal imo, all the wishing in the world won’t resolve the issue. Grand standing by Braverman for personal reasons mainly, to appear tough and try to keep her job, is nonsense and won’t resolve anything either, just sort it out.
Disagree again Braverman isn't grandstanding. She's merely stating what the vast majority of people in this country think and want. And for once, it's refreshing for a politician to take such a stand while the rest of them blather on about protocol and negotiating and get us nowhere.
I disagree, I think she is grandstanding, playing to a section of her party, We need Action, not words. I don’t believe her approach is going to work, if it does I’ll be the first to admit I’m wrong. But I won’t hold my breath.
not exactly true, it was a grey area issue based on we can but should we have, then there would have maybe been issues on future deportations because at the time we were/ are still involved with various human rights laws from EU. We could argue that our human rights are being violated ! tentative I know, but we are deprived of our taxes going to support the aged/ infirm/ hospitals etc ... not on people being persecuted, but a vast number simply having been the richer portion of their countries inhabitants selling up banking the money and looking for a better life. How many of those interviewed actually say I was likely to to killed ? 2% maybe a bit high say 0.2% most say in answer to the question why do you want to go go UK? FOR A BETTER WAY OF LIFE some mention health and benefits ... most they just want to scrounge. how about born in the UK YOU ONLY GET BENEFITS AFTER doing a full schooling to age 16 ... then Benefits and jobseeker helps. Want to stay in UK as an illegal invader then you work from the fifth week .. minimum wage from employer paid into a .gov account minimum hours 38 .. each month the .gov then uses your account to firstly take 10% for "immigrant fund" for future costs then pay tax and NI due then pays for any rent due, pays utility bills then pays what is left for housekeeping / etc etc etc do not work then / wont work then set up tent cities with minimal services the immigrant fund can be used to part fund for workers and non workers ... the UK sets a annual budget of £1bn a year to fund all immigration thats a £1 a week from all conscientious workers born and bred
It is a invasion by illegal migrants not war torn people from ukraine and if it was asylum seekers why not stop off in the first safe country you get to. If this was a Airport they would not be allowed in-so why can they by boat. These little ****s are coming here at us the working taxpayers expense-not to mention crime-rapes-burglaries-muggings etc. They are not and do not have our values for life they need removing from this country and now.
You may well be right, the question is what do we do about it? , & no good saying they should stay in France, because that isn’t going to happen, or send them back, because that won’t happen either. It’s a difficult problem & not one with an easy answer, hence why grand standing is pointless.
Sir Hindsight has had a pop at Sunak and requests a proper Home Secretary Sunak counters with 'you supported Corbyn (the anti UK, Russian loving communist, Remainer)' and your immigration policies are a blank page.
“Sunak accused Labour of not having a plan to fix the problem, describing their policy as "a blank page". No plans no policies.. just criticise.. I seem to remember during Covid, being exactly the same.. you’re right Maggie wouldn’t have tolerated what’s been going on, but unfortunately, the days of policies for the good of this Country are long gone..
