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  1. GEvans76

    GEvans76 Well-Known Member

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    I was impressed when I read his words it’s not about individuals it’s about the team fair play.
     
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  2. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    So you just bullshitted again like usual
    Shoulda said your ITK mate told you
    You’ve got one at every club <laugh>
     
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  3. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Tell that to the Birmingham Mail.
     
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  4. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I hope they announced them in reverse order
    In third place Carlos kickball…..
    Or was it a dance off??
     
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  5. Newland Tiger

    Newland Tiger Well-Known Member

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    He hasn't actually got the job yet has he ?
     
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  6. Tigerite

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  7. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    If Daws can just persuade pele to come out of retirement we’ve got a chance
    Tho he is a bit of a short arse


    The surprising history of successful caretaker managers in football
    Richard Foster
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    Not many people beyond the staff at Aston Villa would have heard of Aaron Danks before he took over from Steven Gerrard last week. Following a dismal 3-0 defeat to Fulham, Danks was put in charge and had just two days to prepare for a meeting with another west London side. Villa’s 4-0 victory over Brentford was one of the most striking examples of a new-manager bounce in recent times.

    Danks could barely contain his delight in his post-match press conference. “It’s been a really exciting experience,” he said. “I’m absolutely shattered and exhausted now because it’s been three really tough days.” His managerial reign was over the following day as Unai Emery was appointed as permanent manager at Villa Park. Danks can walk away with his head held high, with an impressive albeit brief record.


    Maybe Danks drew inspiration from another Villa caretaker who took over the club back in 1982 when Ron Saunders jumped ship to local rivals Birmingham City. As Saunders had guided Villa to the First Division title the season before his departure was a seismic shock for the club. Villa’s chief scout, Tony Barton, was jettisoned into the managerial hot seat. Like Danks, Barton inherited a team that had just suffered a heavy defeat, 4-1 to Manchester United.

    As Barton began his stint as boss, the champions were languishing in 15th place, nearer the relegation places than challenging for Europe. Barton led them on a decent run that included taking them to the semi-final of the European Cup. Once they had reached their first ever semi-final in a European competition, Barton was rewarded with a permanent contract and Villa progressed to the final, where they beat Bayern Munich 1-0 courtesy of a Peter Withe goal.

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    Aston Villa manager Tony Barton holds the European Cup, with captain Dennis Mortimer (left) and goalscorer Peter Withe in May 1982. Photograph: PA
    Another caretaker manager who achieved European glory was Roberto di Matteo after he was placed in interim charge at Chelsea when André Villas-Boas was sacked in March 2012. Chelsea were a long way off the pace in the Premier League, but Di Matteo did achieve a remarkable cup double, beating Liverpool in the FA Cup final and winning the club’s first European Cup by overcoming Bayern Munich in the final on penalties. Di Matteo was duly given a two-year contract but lasted until November, when he was dismissed after a defeat to Juventus in the Champions League.

    Danks’ short spell at Villa meant that, for a few days at least, there were three caretakers in charge of Premier League clubs. Gary O’Neil had the unenviable task of picking up a Bournemouth team who had just suffered the ignominy of a record-equalling Premier League defeat after losing 9-0 at Anfield in late August. Prior to their two narrow losses to Southampton and West Ham recently, Bournemouth had been on an unbeaten run of six matches, with two wins and four draws that catapulted the club into the top half of the table.

    Steve Davis has not had quite the same positive impact at Wolves since stepping into Bruno Lage’s shoes. But after several managers, including Julen Lopetegui and Michael Beale, turned down the opportunity to take over, Davis and his assistant James Collins were given a vote of confidence by Wolves chairman Jeff Shi. “We have complete faith in their ability and leadership to continue their roles into the World Cup break and new year,” said the chairman.

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    Rúben Neves scores from the penalty spot in Wolves’ 1-0 win over Nottingham Forest. Photograph: Sam Bagnall/AMA/Getty
    Mário Zagallo is undoubtedly the most successful caretaker manager in football history. In March 1970, the Brazilian football confederation decided to replace their manager, João Saldanha, only a few months before the World Cup was due to start in Mexico. Saldanha had led Brazilthrough qualifying with ease – they won all six matches while scoring 23 and conceding just two – so this was less to do with football and more to do with politics and a personality clash.

    Saldanha had become a journalist after his playing days and he was not afraid of making enemies with his former colleagues. At one point, he sought to settle an argument with a former journalistic colleague with a loaded gun. The Brazilian confederation has assumed that appointing a journalist would make other writers less critical of the team but that only worked up to a point.

    Saldanha’s communist beliefs did not go down well with the right-wing military dictator Emílio Garrastazu Médici, who wanted to use football to stoke up national pride. The manager also fell out with his assistant – who said he was impossible to work with – and dared to exclude Pelé from his team on the spurious claim that the player’s eyesight was deteriorating.

    Zagallo, who as a player had won the World Cup in 1958 and 1962 alongside Pelé, was not first choice to replace Saldanha but he ended up getting the job. Zagallo had been the manager of club side Botafogo since 1966 and, although he helped the national side as a coach now and again, he had little experience of international football.

    He did not hesitate to bring his former teammate Pelé back into the fold and also changed from Saldanha’s 4-2-4 formation, opting for a more fluid 4-5-1 that allowed the players a bit more freedom. Tostão, Gerson and Jairzinho revelled in the new shape and that 1970 Brazil team are widely regarded as the best World Cup side ever. Their imperious 4-1 triumph over Italy in the final is still viewed as the ultimate victory on an international stage. The success culminated in the fourth goal, which rubber-stamped a performance of grace and technique as Carlos Alberto finished an arrowed shot into the far corner.

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    Carlos Alberto scores Brazil’s fourth goal in their win over Italy in the 1970 World Cup final. Photograph: Imago Sportfotodienst/PA
    Brazil’s third title in four tournaments secured them the Jules Rimet trophy for good and, having become the first man to win the World Cup as both player and manager, Zagallo was made the permanent manager. With Danks already gone after one match at the helm, it remains to be seen how long Davis or O’Neil will last. They are unlikely to achieve as much as their illustrious predecessors, but sometimes a foot in the door is all a new boss needs.
     
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  8. Amin Yapusi

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    Just announce it already ffs
     
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  9. bradymk2

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    on monday
     
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  10. Newland Tiger

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  11. Mckechnie Orange

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  13. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Seems a bit left-field but he's fit, free and available out of the transfer window. Only really has to be an upgrade on Tyler Smith to be worth a punt on a short term deal?
     
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  14. Cityzen

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  15. Cityzen

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    Never seen him. Have you?
     
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  16. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    Article I read strongly implied it was:

    *drumroll*

    3: Jody Morris
    2: Liam Rosenior
    1: Carlos Corberan.
     
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  17. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    If I’m moving to somewhere for a new job, I’d probably look into the place I’m having to move to, the people, the culture and the history.

    I mean, I could go blind and just rock up, but that would be a bit silly wouldn’t it? Like taking a hoodie to Finland in Winter.

    Rosenior doesn’t have to do any of that, he knows the city, the club and some of the staff no doubt. There doesn’t need to be a settling in period, or time working out where to live, he’ll know the area and can focus more on the job.
     
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  18. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

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    So, he can crash on his Nanna's sofa?
     
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  19. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    I’m amazed he didn’t get the Brighton job

    I mean he knows the area well and he loved it there
    And he loved it in derby too
    And he loved it at Fulham
    Etc etc
    He’s a real pro with the media
     
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  20. bradymk2

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    We all know guardiola looked into the people culture and history of manchester before he joined
    It convinced him
     
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