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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    As always, it’s only the demands for a decent wage for the rank and file that gets highlighted in the MSM, usually with comments that they are asking for too much and that they should show some restraint.
    Not enough is made of CEO “earnings” that prove that it is, as always, one rule for them and one rule for the rest.
    Likewise bankers’ bonuses and share dividends need to be more openly discussed and questioned.

    PAY packets for fatcat chief executives of the UK’s 100 biggest companies have swelled by 39%.

    The median pay of CEOs in the FTSE 100 index rose to over £3.4million in 2021, up from £2.5m in 2020, High Pay Centre think-tank and Trades Union Congress research found.

    It means the average UK CEO now earns 109 times more than the average British worker.

    Sebastien De Montessus, boss of metals and mining company Endeavour, tops the list of highest-paid executives on £16.85m.

    Gary Smith, general secretary of GMB trade union, called it “sickening”, and added: “The lack of restraint from those at the top is a slap in the face to workers who are being denied a proper pay rise.”
     
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  2. milton archer

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    I agree with you badge but feel a tinge of irony in supporting ridiculously paid sports stars, entertainers etc. Ideally there needs to be wholesale readjustment in the gulf between the wealthiest and the poorer.......but it ain't gonna happen.
     
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  3. StJabbo1

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    Whilst broadly agreeing I think Labour have been against electoral reform in the past as have the Tories. The two big parties stand to lose most under a PR system. I can only hope a hung parliament forces Labour to put reform on the agenda. I would like the opposition parties to campaign with PR in their manifestos as an alliance but think it highly unlikely, happy to be proved wrong.
     
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  4. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Where’s that quote from, Badger?
     
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  5. The Ides of March

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    I endorse everything you have said except your last sentence!!!
     
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  6. The Ides of March

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    As we enter the final few weeks of Johnson's Premiership, he is a summary of the soon to be former PM

    He may talk like an idiot, and look like an idiot, but don't let that fool you: he really is an idiot.

    Groucho Marx
     
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  7. San Tejón

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    It’s from the Mirror, who tend to be quite hot on these things, being the paper of the workers/left.
    Usually they link where they lift the information from, but I can only presume that they didn’t have the space for that, seeing as it was just a 1”x2” column tucked away on page 10, instead of being on the front page.
    Still, I guess having Cristiano Ronaldo on the front page, in his ongoing dispute with the mum of an autistic Everton supporter, whose phone Ronaldo slapped out of his hand and broke, will get more attention.

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    The £3.4 million also now quoted by a Labour MP
     
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  8. San Tejón

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  9. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Mirror is MSM though.

    So, yeah, I just get worried when people throw around "this isn't getting reported in the MSM" - it's an easy out, but it's a really dangerous line to take as it drip-drip degrades trust, which plays beautifully into the Trump style playbook.
     
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  10. San Tejón

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    I agree it is MSM, but hiding something as important as this in the lower left corner of page 10, when they have Ronaldo on the front page and a two page spread inside, something that is of little interest and no use to anyone, bothers me.
    Especially if the rest of the MSM isn’t even reporting on the CEO pay.
    The Mirror has always been the leading newspaper to take on the Conservatives, and I got quite excited when their owners bought out the Express, as I hoped they might start changing the content of the Express from right to a little bit more central, undoing some of the damage they have done in the past with their fervent support of all that is wrong in the country.
    If anything the Express has got worse and the Mirror has, IMO, become a little more tolerant of what the Tories/employers have got away with. Difficult to give examples because it is my perception of change, that may not be true.
     
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  11. Le Tissier's Laces

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    I hear you and absolutely not having a pop at you, but I REALLY worry about how easy it is to throw around the "MSM" line. It's insidious and become part of the daily discourse, and usually bears no relation to reality. It's just an easy go-to.

    With regard to that - here's just a selection of the much derided MSM, reporting on exactly this (I mean, it's even in the Daily Mail!) -

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/aug/22/average-pay-ftse-100-chiefs-jumps

    https://inews.co.uk/opinion/uk-better-off-cap-big-boss-pay-1807862

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Robert-Scaringe-Apple-CEO-Tim-Cook-list.html

    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/b...-frontline-workers-salary-is-shocking-331518/

    https://www.independent.co.uk/trave...ork-rail-boss-salary-strike-pay-b2147576.html
     
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  12. San Tejón

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    I doff my cap to you.
     
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  14. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Here it is for those who don’t have Facebook:
     
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    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Add to that ravages done to public services, the pillaging of the public purse and blatant lies and corruption of the current government its hard to see how they could win an election. Unfortunately the realism is buried under a torrent of misinformation.
     
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  20. Archers Road

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    I see Two Bob Churchill, aided and abetted by the Tory client press, is trying to guilt shame us into swallowing fuel poverty as part of the Freedom for Ukraine narrative. That’s utterly ****ing shameless imo
     
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