Off Topic The weather

[Cityzen]

I'm not sure what point you're making. The changes in the climate will occur at both ends of the spectrum, and the range between the extremities will get wider and more pronounced, even in the same year.

If the range between the extremities increased more would die of heat and more of cold, wouldn’t they? So more would still be dieing of cold. At least for the foreseeable future.
Give it a week and the HDM will be carrying stories of how Hull is coping with the drop in temperature and asking what happened to the summer.

 

[originallambrettaman]

That'll be the NASA that comments on pre 1850 temperatures on their site, and use that data in their work.

Three of the world’s most complete temperature tracking records – from NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Climactic Data Center and the UK Meteorological Office’s Hadley Centre – begin in 1880. Prior to 1880, temperature measurements were made with instruments like thermometers. The oldest continuous temperature record is the Central England Temperature Data Series, which began in 1659, and the Hadley Centre has some measurements beginning in 1850, but there are too few data before 1880 for scientists to estimate average temperatures for the entire planet (NASA).

 

[DMD]

If the range between the extremities increased more would die of heat and more of cold, wouldn’t they? So more would still be dieing of cold. At least for the foreseeable future.
Give it a week and the HDM will be carrying stories of how Hull is coping with the drop in temperature and asking what happened to the summer.

I guess that would depend on what resilience there is to protect people from either extreme. Measures to address the need for that protection seem to get lost in the reliance on technology to reduce CO2 levels, when there are many other factors also at play and that need addressing, and they often tend to ignore the natural cycle shown in that map.

Yes, man will change the rate of that change, but to ignore nature is akin to King Canute.

 

[Kempton]

It is warm.

 

[DMD]

Three of the world’s most complete temperature tracking records – from NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Climactic Data Center and the UK Meteorological Office’s Hadley Centre – begin in 1880. Prior to 1880, temperature measurements were made with instruments like thermometers. The oldest continuous temperature record is the Central England Temperature Data Series, which began in 1659, and the Hadley Centre has some measurements beginning in 1850, but there are too few data before 1880 for scientists to estimate average temperatures for the entire planet (NASA).

And? None of that contradicts what I posted, and actually misses a fair amount related to that period too.

That doesn't mean that they don't rely heavily on the data they've got from millennia before that. To only show the graphs from the 1850's is not showing the full picture.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

It is warm.

I’ve gotta try n get some sleep this afternoon I’m working nights
Ffs

 

[Cityzen]

Albert Ave outdoor pool closed for refurbishment, typical city.

To be fair who could have predicted that people would want to be making more use of swimming pools in July than January or November?

 

[originallambrettaman]

To be fair who could have predicted that people would want to be making more use of swimming pools in July than January or November?

It’s closed for eighteen months, they’re building a completely new pool, I think they’re probably aware of which months are the most popular for outdoor swimming.

 

[Cityzen]

It’s closed for eighteen months, they’re building a completely new pool, I think they’re probably aware of which months are the most popular for outdoor swimming.

Oh. Didn’t make that clear in the OP.

 

[originalminority]

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One for the temperature nonces.

 

[balkan tiger]

When the planet is about four and a half billion years old drawing conclusions from the 150 year window of temperature measuring could be seen as a bit nieve.

In no way does this suggest that mankind does not need to take measures to protect the planet.

 

[Chillo]

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For anyone struggling to sleep

its better if you place it behind. and use a metal bowl filled with iced water. also have a few tiny atomisers those hand spray things and in bed when you are hot simply spray yourself for instant cooling.

 

[Carmine Galante.]

It is warm.

Not warm enough.

 

[tigerscanada]

McIintyre must be a frustrated Toronto Maple Leaf fan, they've won nowt since the '60s, hence his criticism, along with McKitrick, of the hockey stick evidence. Read on...

https://skepticalscience.com/print.php?r=30

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McIntyre

P. Foster, columnist & author, has been a golf partner of mine over the years...

https://www.desmog.com/2008/02/29/n...r-is-he-suffering-stupidity-venality-or-both/

https://financialpost.com/opinion/peter-foster-deranged-science-peverse-policy

Needless to say, man induced global warning is a complex issue to grapple with !

 

[Chillo]

to me its a waste of time and energy debating whether its nature or us and nature or just us. bottom line is we are trashing this planet environmentally and i think its about time something is done. if we all make changes however big or small its got to help.

 

[SW3 Chelsea Tiger]

to me its a waste of time and energy debating whether its nature or us and nature or just us. bottom line is we are trashing this planet environmentally and i think its about time something is done. if we all make changes however big or small its got to help.

What do you suggest we do?

 

[balkan tiger]

to me its a waste of time and energy debating whether its nature or us and nature or just us. bottom line is we are trashing this planet environmentally and i think its about time something is done. if we all make changes however big or small its got to help.

Depends what those changes are.

 

[Steven Toast]

When the planet is about four and a half billion years old drawing conclusions from the 150 year window of temperature measuring could be seen as a bit nieve.

In no way does this suggest that mankind does not need to take measures to protect the planet.

No, it doesn’t, but there’s little point in discussing humanity’s impact on climate 100,000 years ago when we weren’t impacting the climate through the means we are today.

I mean for the first billion and a half years the Earth was a fiery hellscape, the fact that it’s been here that long isn’t really linked to its climate.

The temperature extremes are going to start cocking up the weather soon, you’ll start seeing more frequent and stronger tornadoes in the U.K. before long and the flooding will become far more of an issue than it currently is.
The planet is warming at an alarming rate, I think I heard yesterday that this weather would be ten times less likely if humans weren’t at the technological level we are now (or weren’t here at all).

 

[SydneyTiger14]

There's plenty of things that are pretty easy to do beyond just dealing with global warming. Here in Aus single use plastic bags have been banned which I thought I'd never cope with a few years ago and now it's second nature.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

What do you suggest we do?

As you know I use next doors Hose pipe to water my garden

just small changes that’s all