1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic The weather

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by balkan tiger, Jul 18, 2022.

  1. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,624
    Likes Received:
    14,977
    If the range between the extremities increased more would die of heat and more of cold, wouldn’t they? So more would still be dieing of cold. At least for the foreseeable future.
    Give it a week and the HDM will be carrying stories of how Hull is coping with the drop in temperature and asking what happened to the summer.
     
    #161
  2. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,716
    Likes Received:
    76,191
    Three of the world’s most complete temperature tracking records – from NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s National Climactic Data Center and the UK Meteorological Office’s Hadley Centre – begin in 1880. Prior to 1880, temperature measurements were made with instruments like thermometers. The oldest continuous temperature record is the Central England Temperature Data Series, which began in 1659, and the Hadley Centre has some measurements beginning in 1850, but there are too few data before 1880 for scientists to estimate average temperatures for the entire planet (NASA).
     
    #162
  3. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    68,681
    Likes Received:
    60,577
    I guess that would depend on what resilience there is to protect people from either extreme. Measures to address the need for that protection seem to get lost in the reliance on technology to reduce CO2 levels, when there are many other factors also at play and that need addressing, and they often tend to ignore the natural cycle shown in that map.

    Yes, man will change the rate of that change, but to ignore nature is akin to King Canute.
     
    #163
  4. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2011
    Messages:
    24,472
    Likes Received:
    19,023
    It is warm.
     
    #164
  5. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    68,681
    Likes Received:
    60,577
    And? None of that contradicts what I posted, and actually misses a fair amount related to that period too.

    That doesn't mean that they don't rely heavily on the data they've got from millennia before that. To only show the graphs from the 1850's is not showing the full picture.
     
    #165
  6. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,412
    Likes Received:
    56,179
    I’ve gotta try n get some sleep this afternoon I’m working nights
    Ffs
     
    #166
    Kempton likes this.
  7. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,624
    Likes Received:
    14,977
    To be fair who could have predicted that people would want to be making more use of swimming pools in July than January or November?
     
    #167
    DMD likes this.
  8. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,716
    Likes Received:
    76,191
    It’s closed for eighteen months, they’re building a completely new pool, I think they’re probably aware of which months are the most popular for outdoor swimming.
     
    #168
    Gone For A Walk likes this.
  9. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,624
    Likes Received:
    14,977
    Oh. Didn’t make that clear in the OP.
     
    #169
  10. originalminority

    originalminority Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2012
    Messages:
    4,891
    Likes Received:
    6,053
    Screenshot_20220719_091150_com.twitter.android~2.jpg
    One for the temperature nonces.
     
    #170
    Edelman likes this.

  11. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2014
    Messages:
    14,640
    Likes Received:
    12,586
    When the planet is about four and a half billion years old drawing conclusions from the 150 year window of temperature measuring could be seen as a bit nieve.

    In no way does this suggest that mankind does not need to take measures to protect the planet.
     
    #171
  12. Chillo

    Chillo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2011
    Messages:
    1,558
    Likes Received:
    906
    its better if you place it behind. and use a metal bowl filled with iced water. also have a few tiny atomisers those hand spray things and in bed when you are hot simply spray yourself for instant cooling.
     
    #172
  13. Carmine Galante.

    Carmine Galante. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    12,776
    Likes Received:
    6,263
    Not warm enough.
     
    #173
  14. tigerscanada

    tigerscanada Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2012
    Messages:
    25,753
    Likes Received:
    10,674
    McIintyre must be a frustrated Toronto Maple Leaf fan, they've won nowt since the '60s, hence his criticism, along with McKitrick, of the hockey stick evidence. Read on...

    https://skepticalscience.com/print.php?r=30

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McIntyre

    P. Foster, columnist & author, has been a golf partner of mine over the years...

    https://www.desmog.com/2008/02/29/n...r-is-he-suffering-stupidity-venality-or-both/

    https://financialpost.com/opinion/peter-foster-deranged-science-peverse-policy

    Needless to say, man induced global warning is a complex issue to grapple with !
     
    #174
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2022
  15. Chillo

    Chillo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2011
    Messages:
    1,558
    Likes Received:
    906
    to me its a waste of time and energy debating whether its nature or us and nature or just us. bottom line is we are trashing this planet environmentally and i think its about time something is done. if we all make changes however big or small its got to help.
     
    #175
  16. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

    SW3 Chelsea Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,283
    Likes Received:
    17,574
    What do you suggest we do?
     
    #176
    DMD likes this.
  17. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2014
    Messages:
    14,640
    Likes Received:
    12,586
    Depends what those changes are.
     
    #177
    DMD likes this.
  18. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    24,811
    Likes Received:
    19,744
    No, it doesn’t, but there’s little point in discussing humanity’s impact on climate 100,000 years ago when we weren’t impacting the climate through the means we are today.

    I mean for the first billion and a half years the Earth was a fiery hellscape, the fact that it’s been here that long isn’t really linked to its climate.

    The temperature extremes are going to start cocking up the weather soon, you’ll start seeing more frequent and stronger tornadoes in the U.K. before long and the flooding will become far more of an issue than it currently is.
    The planet is warming at an alarming rate, I think I heard yesterday that this weather would be ten times less likely if humans weren’t at the technological level we are now (or weren’t here at all).
     
    #178
  19. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2013
    Messages:
    25,919
    Likes Received:
    14,503
    There's plenty of things that are pretty easy to do beyond just dealing with global warming. Here in Aus single use plastic bags have been banned which I thought I'd never cope with a few years ago and now it's second nature.
     
    #179
    Gone For A Walk and Steven Toast like this.
  20. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    58,412
    Likes Received:
    56,179
    As you know I use next doors Hose pipe to water my garden

    just small changes that’s all
     
    #180

Share This Page