Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

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originallambrettaman said:
Can we at least shoot Laurence Fox?
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Laurence Fox is just the divorced dad stereotype who got too far down the rabbit hole of edgy internet conspiracy theories. The British version of Alex Jones, but without the amusing moments. He's just boring and insufferable.

So yes, shoot him, but not before reminding him that he didn't get enough votes in the London mayoral election to get his deposit back.
 
Steven Toast said:
Yeah, I know, but that's the problem and we need to get over that. If it was explained a lot better, people wouldn't rail against it so much. This idea that people know better than scientists, epidemiologists, virologists et al isn't going to work when there's a virus cutting through the population. It might make them feel better emotionally, but in reality it's just contributing to the problem. Sometimes the public don't know better, but they'll never accept that en masse for obvious reasons.

You look at America, which has always had a chip on its shoulder about freedom and people telling them what to do and you see the results. They've lost just shy of three quarters of a million people, but they baulked at most of the safety measures and declared themselves in better knowledge than the scientists advising them. Using personal freedom as an excuse cost them a hell of a lot of people dying, backed up by a president who was too much of a pussy to stand up to them and say its for their own good. The reality was that wearing a mask wasn't anything like wearing a gold star during the holocaust or having your mouth taped up so you can't speak. It's not a case of the "evul gubberment" treading on them, it's because the people who knew what they were talking about were frantically trying to prevent a virus from rapidly killing people and were being roundly ignored.

We don't know better than these people, of course we don't. We just feel empowered to do the opposite because we're ****ing idiots.

Credit to the likes of Dr Fauci, because if I were him I'd have given the US populous a round "you know what? **** you all, you're on your own", flipped them off and kicked back.
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I don't want to get involved in the rest, but "credit to Dr fauci". Ain't the guy been found to be lying to Congress about the funding gain of function research at wuhan?
 
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Steven Toast said:
It's not "only the flu", we've done this one to death. The flu doesn't mutate like this virus does, it's not as contagious either. The flu also doesn't kill over 100,000 people in a year, in fact, it's usually about 10% of that.

*Love* the idea of some having a certain amount of people dying as a measure of whether they should take precautions or not. "Oh only 100 people died today, it's fine". We've now reached the point where actual people dying just becomes a statistic, basically dehumanised in order to defend people's decisions. Alright isn't it, until you're the one that starts losing loved ones and then those numbers actually start to mean something again.

We've opened up, we're not going to go back to lockdown again. I can deal with that, but I haven't stopped wearing a mask because I'm in a classroom with 28 kids and another adult over 50 for seven hours a day, **** knows how many times I'm exposed to it and I won't risk spreading it to others. I've had four kids off with Covid this week alone, one was blue lighted to hospital because her heart rate spiked. She's seven and was a perfectly healthy child, hopefully this won't impact her long term but I doubt she'll be so lucky, nobody else I've met who's had it has fully recovered, even those who had it a year ago. So you go ahead and treat it like flu or a snotty nose or whatever you tell yourself to make yourself feel better about your choices. You do that.

This virus isn't going to be stopped by a vaccine alone, it's going to require everybody taking precautions to limit interaction where possible, just like other countries have. I'd wager a bag of cash with a dollar sign on it that the UK ends up having the highest Covid figures in Europe this winter, we just don't like being told to change our habits. Electric cars? **** off. Eat less meat? Shares in Toby Carvery shoot up. We just can't do what other nations can. We're isolationist as a nation, but even at a societal level, we're incredibly self centred and we just aren't willing to take that step to pull together. Until we do, this virus isn't going anywhere.

Hopefully everybody pulls through this Christmas with no tragedy or illness, I really hope they do after the year we've had.
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I had it I got better with a few days
6 close mates all had it fir a few days fine since
All three of my kids have had it
All fine after a few days
My ex had it unfortunately ok after a few days
Stop trying to make out it’s something that you never recover from
The psychological impact is what’s making a lot of people think they’re still unwell that fear
It’s almost ptsd like.
Climate fear isn’t it
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
I had it I got better with a few days
6 close mates all had it fir a few days fine since
All three of my kids have had it
All fine after a few days
My ex had it unfortunately ok after a few days
Stop trying to make out it’s something that you never recover from
The psychological impact is what’s making a lot of people think they’re still unwell that fear
It’s almost ptsd like.
Climate fear isn’t it
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Apparently, 179 people worried themselves to death yesterday.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
Apparently, 179 people worried themselves to death yesterday.
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How old was they, how many other co-morbitities did they have, how many beat covid then succumbed to cancer 28 days later.

I'm no conspiracy theorist, I'm jabbed, I will wear a mask in certain circumstances...but it's not black and white. People are (and I would encourage with this and anything else) allow to challenge what's going on.
 
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Idi Amin said:
How old was they, how many other co-morbitities did they have, how many beat covid then succumbed to cancer 28 days later.

I'm no conspiracy theorist, I'm jabbed, I will wear a mask in certain circumstances...but it's not black and white. People are (and I would encourage with this and anything else) allow to challenge what's going on.
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Most were unvaccinated, some will have had other medical issues, some will have died of other things while happening to have tested positively recently. But none of that is really relevant to the point I was making, which is that people are actually dying of it, it's not just 'climate fear'.
 
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it does all mess with peoples heads a bit though, only people i worry about are my parents , my dad is in his seventies and my mum is classed as vulnerable due to recent treatment, i do worry about taking my kids too visit as they spend all week at the nursery germ factory, try too be sensible and not go if they have temperatures, etc but as we know kids dont always show symptoms.
but when it was lockdown they where almost in tears not been able too see the grandkids, so end up feeling guilty whatever .
 
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