DMD -> "I didn't listen to the manager today Burnsey, but I reckon he's got a point. We're not getting played off the park, and we've played some of the better teams. Then again, when you're bottom, that's rather a big pool. We'll come good, just have faith, it's not as though they're not trying or have lost heart, they're making, but just not taking the opportunities yet. It'll come. Moaning seems to be a bad habit some have become entrenched in.
-> How long should we wait?
You're right about the effort and spirit etc. We know you're not the owner and don't get to chose, but given that you've stated the above, again how long do you think 'we' should wait?
Maybe the entrenched moaning becoming a bad habit is simply a natural correlation with what's become a bad habit of McCann persisting with the same, resulting in continued failure at this level?
I've only just seen last night's results. Derby will soon overtake us, and even with a further 9 point deduction will overtake us in the new year if not before. Forest win, P'Boro pick up a point against the 'might' Bournemouth, and so it goes on. My fear, based on the evidence, is that we are going to be sunk without a trace before too long unless there's a change. And this great fighting spirit isn't going to last for ever. Definition of madness and all that.
Honeyman, if / when he finally returns & gets back up to speed might make a positive difference, but it's unrealistic that McCann, Ehab or us pin our hopes on the difference that he might make. Eaves has failed miserably previously on the many occasions he's been given the opportunity (which is why we were trying to offload), so thinking he might be some sort of returning messiah is plain crazy especially when the chances of McCann changing the set up are next to zero (were he to change approach, then who knows, but he won't).
Fair enough that McCann got another shot at it this season (although I would rather he'd gone previously), with the hope that he'd learnt something from last time around, but it's now crystal clear he hasn't.
We all know the root cause is with the owners, and that fans should back the team, and that it's not about chanting McCann Out during a game but rather it's a discussion on a message board plus voicing opinions in whatever way outside of the 90 minutes of a game, blah blah .... but I just can't see how anyone can continue to advocate keeping McCann and his failing coaching & tactics a moment longer.
So, how long?