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I’ve got no issue whatsoever with us claiming it. At the end of the day, the players will be likely paying more in tax each month than we are claiming. The club had virtually no income (after season card refunds) last season so if the business made losses they should be entitled.
 
We worked for a billionaire in France.

To be paid I had to have a limited company created, in my name, in Portugal and sub-contract my wife as an employee.

I've no idea how much/little tax was saved for my employer and I doubt he knew either, not much. These people employ accountants who are totally obsessed with tax avoidance and congratulate themselves accordingly depending on the intricacies they need to employ. What SAFC have done was handed to them on a plate tbh and turning down the offer, at a time when no one knew how long this crisis would last, would go against their grain.


I used to know a bookie with a chain of shops, owned most of the other shops in town and surrounding area. A helicopter, rental houses etc.
He'd shave the sides off a coin if they were still silver <laugh>
 
People need to not confuse Sunderland AFC with its owner. We don’t have billions of pounds just because our owner’s family do. The fact he has a **** tonne of money should be seen as our safety net if things go tits up, or an opportunity for us to invest more heavily if and when we need to.

He’s not a charity and he’s not here to waste money.

Personally I think it’s a good sign that he’s showing everybody that cash won’t just be thrown around now. We are still a league one club having to cut our cloth during a time of limited income.
 
It would also be really irresponsible of him to not be making us sustainable, and just spending his money Willy-Nilly.

If we are sustainable and he decides / is forced to walk away, it’s fine. If he’s set us up with ridiculous operating expenditure and walks away or gets hit by a bus we are ****ed.

I reckon the only time we will see a benefit of having a billionaire owner is one off capital expenditures. Perhaps signing a player with the fee paid up front or at least underwritten by him rather than the club. Or investment in a new pitch or training ground upgrades.

Wages and other operational, ongoing expenses should be kept to whatever the club can afford from a turnover perspective. Which is currently massively lower than it should be.
 
People need to not confuse Sunderland AFC with its owner. We don’t have billions of pounds just because our owner’s family do. The fact he has a **** tonne of money should be seen as our safety net if things go tits up, or an opportunity for us to invest more heavily if and when we need to.

He’s not a charity and he’s not here to waste money.

Personally I think it’s a good sign that he’s showing everybody that cash won’t just be thrown around now. We are still a league one club having to cut our cloth during a time of limited income.

Quite right, two separate entities entirely.

There will be serious financial people overseeing how he spends his money for sure.

Imagine his buying this club and refusing government aid during a pandemic and virtually zero income ...

... they'd be looking sideways, at each other, and wondering wtf he's up to.

There'll be people in 'the family business' who'll be thinking he'll spunk all his money on a struggling L1 club and ending up in his mams' back bedroom.
 
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Quite right, two separate entities entirely.

There will be serious financial people overseeing how he spends his money for sure.

Imagine his buying this club and refusing government aid during a pandemic and virtually zero income ...

... they'd be looking sideways, at each other, and wondering wtf he's up to.

There'll be people in 'the family business' who'll be thinking he'll spunk all his money on a struggling L1 club and ending up in his mams' back bedroom.
Still boils down to me and you paying a billionaires wage bill to keep his business afloat and for people to say but he’s paying it in taxes well he wouldn’t be if he was paying his wage bill.